David Moyes disgracefully sacked

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The bottom line is, the Man Utd squad is mediocre. The midfield alone needs a out £100 million spent on it to bring it up to a similar standard to the top clubs. It also looks likely that a substantial amount will have to be spent on the back-line, given Vidic leaving, Ferdianand being more or less finished and the likes of Jones, Smalling and Evans clearly not being the required standard.

The squad as a whole may be, but the 1st XI isnt that bad with a few additions;

De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Carrick, Mata, Kagawa, Rooney would make up the core of a very good side next season capable of chasing top four with a CB,left back, and two CM's (thinking of a 4-3-2-1 formation)

Its also not necessary to pay a fortune for every position ( although constraints with the WC may force bids higher) the rest of the squad can be filled out with some promising youngsters already at the club. Sales could also account for £30m + ( even without selling Rvp).

Evans and Smalling are actually a very good standard already as long as they have a more experienced player as the 2nd centre half
 
A bit arrogant no? You were Man Utd afterall in the years between 1967-1993.

You think Liverpool thought they would be back challenging from 1990 onwards, just because they were Liverpool and had dominated previously?

The bottom line is, the Man Utd squad is mediocre. The midfield alone needs a out £100 million spent on it to bring it up to a similar standard to the top clubs. It also looks likely that a substantial amount will have to be spent on the back-line, given Vidic leaving, Ferdianand being more or less finished and the likes of Jones, Smalling and Evans clearly not being the required standard.

But Liverpool fans did and do think that.

The same as Arsenal fans, the same as Chelsea fans, hell, even City think the same these days.

They all should be up there challenging for every single trophy year in, year out.
 
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After the terrible job he's done at Cardiff? You'd have thought Utd have learnt their lesson from Moyes and won't take a needless gamble again.

I'm not a Solskjaer fan by any means, nor Man Utd or Cardiff, but that club was in disarray when he arrived. It was a nice steady ship that the owner completely screwed over. Solskjaer's made some odd signings, but given their position, he needed players he knew and could depend on. That they're still in with a chance of staying in the league is about as good a job as I think he could have done.

Basing Solskjaer's potential as a manager based on his time at Cardiff is pointless in my opinion. He'd be jumping from frying pan to fire going from one extreme to the other though - not saying he wouldn't be right, as who knows, but it would be risky. Man Utd need a proven top-league manager - not necessarily world class, but someone with decent Champions League experience. Or Kevin Keegan. :p
 
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BBC Sport football pundit Mark Lawrenson on the David Moyes situation amid rumours that he could be sacked as Manchester United manager: "It shows a lack of respect, and it needs some kind of clarity."
 
Gary Neville not impressed with the media, but he fears for Moyes.

He clearly won't say anything bad against Moyes... :/

Carragher thinks he's gone. Just compared Moyes to Hodgson. :D
 
Anyone think giving Rooney the new contract basically lost him the support of pretty much every other player?

Very little to do with it.

There is also the question whether the headline figure bandied about so often is even accurate or whether its just media rights being added in to his previous contract rather than a seperate figure.

Rooney has actually been one of Utd' s most consistant players this season ( his Goodison Park performances are usually average anyway so yesterday shouldmt be examined too closely imo)
 
But Liverpool fans did and do think that.

The same as Arsenal fans, the same as Chelsea fans, hell, even City think the same these days.

They all should be up there challenging for every single trophy year in, year out.

Yes they did/ do think that - how many times have they challenged in the intervening years in reality? 2 or 3 realistic challenges in nearly quarter of a century including this year. So yes, a club of United's stature (and the same goes for Liverpool in the past) SHOULD be expecting to challenge, but history shows us that just because a club has a period, or even a generation of dominance, does not automatically mean that they will be back challenging a year or 2 after a poor managerial appointment.
 
I'm not a Solskjaer fan by any means, nor Man Utd or Cardiff, but that club was in disarray when he arrived. It was a nice steady ship that the owner completely screwed over. Solskjaer's made some odd signings, but given their position, he needed players he knew and could depend on. That they're still in with a chance of staying in the league is about as good a job as I think he could have done.

Basing Solskjaer's potential as a manager based on his time at Cardiff is pointless in my opinion. He'd be jumping from frying pan to fire going from one extreme to the other though - not saying he wouldn't be right, as who knows, but it would be risky. Man Utd need a proven top-league manager - not necessarily world class, but someone with decent Champions League experience. Or Kevin Keegan. :p

Way too imexperienced for Utd however much he is loved by the fans, same goes for Giggs ( who is perfect until the end of the season if required)
 
I don't fancy Solskjaer or Giggs really, though the latter is fine for the remainder of the season. Maybe in future they'll be an option.

I think we'll try and get Klopp, maybe Simeone, and failing that get Van Gaal most likely.
 
Yes they did/ do think that - how many times have they challenged in the intervening years in reality? 2 or 3 realistic challenges in nearly quarter of a century including this year. So yes, a club of United's stature (and the same goes for Liverpool in the past) SHOULD be expecting to challenge, but history shows us that just because a club has a period, or even a generation of dominance, does not automatically mean that they will be back challenging a year or 2 after a poor managerial appointment.

Remember Liverpool also had a completely different financial situation compared to Utd currently, so not directly comparable. Its also debatable that the G&H might have had to go before Liverpool were to sustain a challange. Utd arecmuch stronger in that department despite the loan payments etc
 
I think we'll try and get Klopp, maybe Simeone, and failing that get Van Gaal most likely.

sounding very fabregas again ie ''we're man utd, we'll get who we want''

why would klopp want to come? how much is he currently on and could you better it. would he leave cl football?

van gaal wouldn't be happy knowing he was not first choice if an approach for klopp was made and he rejected.
 
If Real go out to Bayern and lose out to Atletico or Barca in La Liga, I wouldn't br surprised to see Ancelotti looking for another job! Would be a great appointment, in as much that he is a top class coach, but also has experience of the Premier League and actually winning it.

United missed a trick last year by allowing Mourinho to go back to Chelsea. If anybody had the capability of following on from Sir Alex, and crucially having the confidence to do so, it was him.
 
Arsenal fans need to remember that Wenger couldn't out think Moyes twice this season.

You need to remember it's not Arsenal supporters who are sacking Moyes, it is United ;)

I would keep Moyes for minimum of another 2y. He has no chance because of the way the fans are always throwing their toys because they no longer have God at the controls.
 
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