David Moyes disgracefully sacked

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No mention of the players , says it all imo

'To have been appointed as manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest football clubs in the world, was and remains something of which I will always be incredibly proud.

'Taking charge after such a long period of continuous stability and success at the club was inevitably going to be a significant challenge, but it was one which I relished and never had a second thought about taking on.

'The scale of the manager’s job at United is immense, but I have never stepped away from hard work and the same applies to my coaching staff. I thank them for their dedication and loyalty throughout the last season.

'We were fully focused and committed to the process of the fundamental rebuilding that is required for the senior squad. This had to be achieved whilst delivering positive results in the Barclays Premier League and the Champions League. However, during this period of transition, performances and results have not been what Manchester United and its fans are used to or expect, and I both understand and share their frustration.

'In my short time at the club I have learnt what special places Old Trafford and Carrington are. I would like to thank the United staff for making me feel so welcome and part of the United family from my first day. And of course thank you to those fans who have supported me throughout the season. I wish you and the club all the best for the future.

'I have always believed that a manager never stops learning during his career and I know I will take invaluable experience from my time as United's manager. I remain proud to have led the team to the quarter finals of this year's Champions League and I remain grateful to Sir Alex Ferguson for believing in my ability and giving me the chance to manage Manchester United.'
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Just get Mourinho already. He's already saying he's not got full control of Chelsea team selections, he looks unhappy and I hope they get knocked out of the CL and thumped by Liverpool leaving more tensions between him and Roman.

Fergie better use his power to get Mourinho.
 
NeedAUsername said:
Just get Mourinho already. He's already saying he's not got full control of Chelsea team selections, he looks unhappy and I hope they get knocked out of the CL and thumped by Liverpool leaving more tensions between him and Roman.

Fergie better use his power to get Mourinho.
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Yep, an eye-gouging paranoid megalomaniac would be ideal.

This car crash is only just beginning.
 
FrankJH said:
Because those linls are already in this thread

Every single manager who gets a new appointment appoints his owm backroom staff, Im sre Wenger did it initially as well as Mourinho when he first came to Chelsea

You are just speculating
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Did you have a point? Did I make the argument that most managers don't do this? Yes, I'm speculating as was everyone else, it was YOU that told everyone they were certainly wrong because those people chose to leave. Which speculation do I tend to believe, the one backed up by stories and reporters, or your speculation, which is contradicted from every source possible and outside of you now I've heard from no one at all. Outside of which I put forward a perfectly logical and plausible reason for both to be true.

Your argument wasn't that most managers bring in their own staff, you were saying everyone was wrong and he didn't get rid of the previous people and telling everyone they were wrong based off something I've seen hinted at no where at all. THat link has quotes from former staff saying they were pushed. But this is usual, you make one argument, get called on it and jump to a completely different argument. Most managers bring in their own staff, and your original argument , they didn't get pushed out of the club, are entirely different arguments, that they are on the same subject makes no difference.

Also on the topic of people bringing in their own staff. The situation of a replacement manager coming in for a existing very successful manager/staff is very very rare.

The majority of manager turn over is, manager not being successful enough and being replaced by some up and comer who has been doing well recently. This is the almost the opposite of the case for Utd, the very rare situation in which a manager retires, the staff were all doing a phenomenal job and for whatever stupid reason(Fergie's old age most likely) they picked a manager who hasn't been successful lately and whose staff hadn't been part of recent success. So there is really no relevance to what usually happens.

Take any of the lower half clubs who have replaced their managers, they did so because they were failing and as such replacing the entire staff makes a lot of sense, it made no sense at Utd, and still makes no sense.

Had Utd hired someone genuinely successful who had achieved success it would have made a lot more sense to bring some of them in.
 
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First result on Google, important bit in bold:

Fergie urged Moyes to maintain some sense of continuity when the former Everton gaffer replaced him in the Old Trafford hotseat, but Moyes was keen to brining in his own team and do it his way, according to Steele.

The pressure is building on Moyes after the champions slumped to their third defeat in six Premier League games at home to West Brom on Saturday.

Now lying in 12th place, it represents the Red Devils’ worst top-flight start since 1989.

Ferguson himself told United fans they must keep faith with whoever it was who replaced him after his incredible tenue at the club.

But the sluggish start has only focused attention on the debate over whether Moyes was the right man to replace his fellow Scot, especially after he released Fergie’s No.2 Mike Phelan, first-team coach Rene Meulensteen and Steele and brought in Steve Round, Jimmy Lumsden and Chris Woods with him from Everton.

Speaking to the United We Stand fanzine, Steele said: ‘He [Moyes] spoke to me, Mick and Rene. I told him I thought it was a brave decision.

‘He [Moyes] listened to the manager’s advice, but he wanted to be his own man. I didn’t want to leave. Why would I? I knew that David was coming in and wondered who he’d bring.

‘You had the United perspective – the manager saying, “Keep what we’ve got, keep the continuity, work with them and they’ll guide you through. You’re taking on a massive machine here. You’ve gone from Marks and Spencer’s to Harrods”.

‘I don’t blame him for doing what he did. I’ve been in the game long enough to know how it is.

‘But it’s ironic, isn’t it? You’ve just been part of a team that has had a great season and won the league. David De Gea’s had his best season. Does it make sense that you’re not retained to continue the good work? Sadly, that’s out of my hands.

‘There were massive changes – the manager, chief executive, [Paul] Scholes retiring and the coaches. But there are enough players in that dressing room to win when it really starts.

‘My time was up, I’m proud of what I did at United and I have great memories.’
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dmcg said:
No mention of the players , says it all imo
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He said thanks to the Manchester United Staff...right there in your quoted statement!!!

You have two groups of people involved in a Football Club...The Staff (including the players) and The Fans...he said thanks to both of them.
 
Castiel said:
He said thanks to the Manchester United Staff...right there in your quoted statement!!!

You have two groups of people involved in a Football Club...The Staff (including the players) and The Fans...he said thanks to both of them.
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I don't think the players form part of who he was aiming that at. An outgoing manager would usually mention the players specifically and he hasn't.
 
Gilly said:
I don't think the players form part of who he was aiming that at. An outgoing manager would usually mention the players specifically and he hasn't.
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dmcg said:
When does a manager ever to refer to players as staff?
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I disagree...the staff include The Players, which by definition would have been a significant portion of the current staff.

I think its too easy to read into his statement something that isn't there.
 
So it sounds like (from all the papers who seem to be on the same page) Ancelotti is the boards number one choice. If Real get knocked out of the CL and lose La Liga to Atletico, I suppose there's a chance he'll get the boot there/will be able to leave.

After that it just seems to be Van Gaal. Giggs isn't getting the job full time, these last remaining games are meaningless really, but no doubt we'll try and smash a few goals in.

A few places have mentioned Roberto Di Matteo... no thanks. :eek:

Coming back to Klopp though, could we not make an outrageous offer to both him and Dortmund that they couldn't really refuse? In theory?
 
Castiel said:
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By all the gossip, it seems it's not just the playing staff that are glad to see the back of Moyes anyway.
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When a manager uses the word 'staff' when referring to players he always, like you did above, adds the word 'playing' before it. Just saying the word 'staff' is referring to coaching staff, i.e. supervisors, people in a position of authority, just like it is in business.
 
Dr.Eddie said:
When a manager uses the word 'staff' when referring to players he always, like you did above, adds the word 'playing' before it. Just saying the word 'staff' is referring to coaching staff, i.e. supervisors, people in a position of authority, just like it is in business.
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I disagree, I added staff to playing intentionally...if I was talking more inclusively, as Moyes was, regarding the entire club, I would just use the word Staff...just like it is in business.
 
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