Motorola Moto E tipped for May release to replace Moto G(worse than Moto G!!)

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Well if it's true, it should mean I get a decent price for my Moto G when I sell it in October.
 
Pretty disgusting from Motorola, replacing a phone that is barely 6 months old with a lower spec model with a smaller horrible low res screen, looks like the end of good budget phones from the big brands, thank god I have a Moto G and the criminally underrated Alcatel One Touch Idol S which I managed to get for just £90.99 by calling up EE, comes with 4G, Micro SD slot and a beautiful high res large 4.7`screen and is an incredible phone for the money, 4G will really come into its own in the years ahead and the Moto G will be left behind, doesn't look like we will see a Moto G 2.
 
TheVoice said:
Certainly seems that way, can't see why the Moto G would be replaced by it here. Evidently doesn't stop people overreacting (see above) though/
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*** No personal attacks *** - Will Gill actually the rumours are after Lenova bought Motorola earlier this year and even though the Moto G has been a big success it still hasn't made enough of a profit for them and they want to release a lower spec phone to make a larger profit so I wouldn't put it past them to release it over here too and eventually phase out the Moto G for the Moto E.
 
Moto E is not aimed at replacing the G. It is a lower spec and lower price which is for the more a budget market. No one thinks the E is a replacment because for one its lower spec and two its lower priced. Generally replacements are higher spec and priced.

The G will still be around for £100 notes ish and ppl will still buy it. As its the best phone around for the price.
 
I can't see motorola doing that lol!

by replace they clearly mean make it the CHEAPEST motorola on sale, doesn't mean there will be no moto G 2 or w/e they're going to call it, that will be in a higher(£100-£120) segment like moto G is now.

they probably want to fill the £40-£70 quid bit with the moto E which will be the new BUDGET motorola.

if that makes sense of course, stop crying lol.
 
Launched in the UK for nearly £100:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/13/motorola-moto-e-android-smartphone

It seems they have scrapped the 4GB and 8GB versions of the Moto G now,added a microSD card slot and LTE and increased the price by 50% it seems:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/motorola-moto-g-adds-4g-support-jumps-to-149

So bye! bye! the £100 Moto g 8GB,and it appears to be replaced by the Moto E.

Looks like the Alcatel One Touch Idol S will be the best smartphone at £100 now,as long as EE don't increase the price.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Launched in the UK for nearly £100:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/13/motorola-moto-e-android-smartphone

It seems they have scrapped the 4GB and 8GB versions of the Moto G now,added a microSD card slot and LTE and increased the price by 50% it seems:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/motorola-moto-g-adds-4g-support-jumps-to-149

So bye! bye! the £100 Moto g 8GB,and it appears to be replaced by the Moto E.

Looks like the Alcatel One Touch Idol S will be the best smartphone at £100 now,as long as EE don't increase the price.
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It seems the onboard storage of the Moto G 3G is an eMMC card which is sealed off:

http://www.slashgear.com/moto-g-microsd-expansion-not-so-fast-27310163/

So the microSD card reader is already onboard.

It would not even surprise me if the current 3G Moto G supports LTE,but they just disabled it as the Snapdragon 400 does support it.

So,they increase the price massively,all for the cost of probably dumping some cheap NAND onboard.

It also means the Alcatel One Touch Idol S which many EE shops sells for around £100,which has both 4G and a microSD card slot,will probably rise in price. EE dropped the price to match the Moto G 3G 8GB.

kona786 said:
Not quite - Moto G 8GB is rrp £135. LTE version £149. £14 markup.

Wait till the supermarket get them in. It'll probably be sold for £125 after a little while.
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Which still makes it around around 25% to 30% more expensive as the Moto G is easy to get for around £90.

Look at the teardown - the microSD card slot is already there. They only need a few GB of cheap NAND to house the OS now and the traces are already there on the PCB.

grudas said:
I can't see motorola doing that lol!

by replace they clearly mean make it the CHEAPEST motorola on sale, doesn't mean there will be no moto G 2 or w/e they're going to call it, that will be in a higher(£100-£120) segment like moto G is now.

they probably want to fill the £40-£70 quid bit with the moto E which will be the new BUDGET motorola.

if that makes sense of course, stop crying lol.
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grudas said:
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Looks like I was right,though. Its £80 to £90 at many retailers now.

The Moto G will now be more expensive and pushed closer to £150.

Your £40 to £70 estimate is way off.

Stop crying.
 
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Just saw this in the Moto E thread which I started:

dabotsonline said:
I personally think £90 for the unlocked single-(micro)SIM version is a rip-off: it's being sold in India for 7,000 rupees (equivalent of £70) for the unlocked dual-SIM version (albeit dual-standby rather than dual-active).

Has anyone managed to find the XT model numbers? The only technical specification pages outside of GSMArena (linked by the OP) and PDAdb I can see are:

http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-E/moto-e-gb.html
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/shop-all-other/Moto-E/moto-e.html
http://motorola.com.mx/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-E/Moto-E-MX.html

(all identical but redirect to different 'Buy' links)
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India GST is nearly 13% so even with the higher VAT we have here,the Moto G is overpriced,as we have an inferior single SIM version.
 
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Within a month or two the LTE version will be back down to current Moto G prices and the Moto E will drop a fair amount from the release price very soon considering its going on sale a fair amount cheaper in places like India.

The Moto G isnt going anywhere. Motorola have 3 clear devices and a very clear strategy MotoE for low end and developing world countries, MotoG great value middle range, MotoX premium great features.
 
m4rk84 said:
Within a month or two the LTE version will be back down to current Moto G prices and the Moto E will drop a fair amount from the release price very soon considering its going on sale a fair amount cheaper in places like India.

The Moto G isnt going anywhere. Motorola have 3 clear devices and a very clear strategy MotoE for low end and developing world countries, MotoG great value middle range, MotoX premium great features.
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You do realise phones tend to cost more in South East Asia,as networks don't subsidise phones very often??

BTW,it isn't Motorola though - Google was pushing the Moto G when they owned Motorola to expand Android share at the lower end. They made very slim margins on it and even stated they were.

However,Motorola is now owned by Lenovo,who are more interested in margins as they sell primarily hardware not software.

Most of the "new" functionality is onboard for the 4G version - its quite common hardware is fused off and then enabled for later versions. There is no real reason to increase the price of the 4G version,except to increase the margins on the phone.

The Moto E is primarily about increasing margins,by displacing the Moto G 3G 8GB.

It also means the Alcatel One Touch Idol S will probably rise back in price now,as it has a comparable feature set.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It isn't Motorola though - Google was pushing the Moto G when they owned Motorola to expand Android share. They made very slim margins on it.

However,Motorola is now owned by Lenovo,who are more interested in margins as they sell hardware not software.
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Google were setting up Motorola to turn a profit, narrow margins can be much more profitable then high markups if your selling enough quantity.

Moto G has been the biggest Motorola success in years, Lenovo didnt buy Motorola to change Googles strategy, they bought them because they could clearly see Googles Moto strategy was going to be a success. They were buying the new Moto with the clear successful path Google has layed out in front of them.
 
m4rk84 said:
Google were setting up Motorola to turn a profit, narrow margins can be much more profitable then high markups if your selling enough quantity.

Moto G has been the biggest Motorola success in years, Lenovo didnt buy Motorola to change Googles strategy, they bought them because they could clearly see Googles Moto strategy was going to be a success. They were buying the new Moto with the clear successful path Google has layed out in front of them.
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Yet the first thing that happens,is that the Moto G 8GB is replaced by the Moto E at the £100 and lower mark,and now they re-enable functionality and bump the price up.

Lenovo is a hardware company,and they want reasonable margins.

Google is a software company - they make money from ads,the app store and data mining on the Android and other platforms,so selling more phones at slim margins was OK for them,as the hardware is a means to an end for them.

The main problem is that the higher end Motorola phones were not that successful and caused them to lose money. It was affecting their financial outlook,so they got rid of Motorola to make their books look better.

However,the thing is look at the Nexus brand - Google is now going to stop it so it does seem they want to move away from the hardware market in general for some reason too. Maybe the low margins on their hardware business is not giving their investors much confidence,as more of these phones become more popular. I would also suspect companies like Samsung which are major Android licensees don't like these cheap Google endorsed phones.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It seems the onboard storage of the Moto G 3G is an eMMC card which is sealed off:

http://www.slashgear.com/moto-g-microsd-expansion-not-so-fast-27310163/

So the microSD card reader is already onboard.

It would not even surprise me if the current 3G Moto G supports LTE,but they just disabled it as the Snapdragon 400 does support it.

So,they increase the price massively,all for the cost of probably dumping some cheap NAND onboard.

It also means the Alcatel One Touch Idol S which many EE shops sells for around £100,which has both 4G and a microSD card slot,will probably rise in price. EE dropped the price to match the Moto G 3G 8GB.



Which still makes it around around 25% to 30% more expensive as the Moto G is easy to get for around £90.

Look at the teardown - the microSD card slot is already there. They only need a few GB of cheap NAND to house the OS now and the traces are already there on the PCB.






Looks like I was right,though. Its £80 to £90 at many retailers now.

The Moto G will now be more expensive and pushed closer to £150.

Your £40 to £70 estimate is way off.

Stop crying.
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wow a just released phone is 10 quid more expensive that I estimated? bohooooho..

£150 RRP doesn't mean it'll sell for £150 lol :)
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Yet the first thing that happens,is that the Moto G 8GB is replaced by the Moto E at the £100 and lower mark,and now the re-enable functionality and bump the price up.

Lenovo is a hardware company,and they want reasonable margins.

Google is a software company - they make money from ads on the Android platform,so selling more phones at slim margins was OK for them.

The main problem is that the higher end Motorola phones were not that successful and caused them to lose money. It was affecting their financial outlook,so they got rid of Motorola to make their books look better.
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Oh please, Nokia was the most successful mobile phone manufacturer for years mainly due to their low margin high volume value phones. The MotoE is £89 at launch within a few weeks it will be in the £70s in a month or two it will be seen at £60ish.

Google is a software company which is why they sold Lenovo after turning the company round, but they were always setting up Moto to turn a profit as a hardware company... it wasnt about Google at all, they were setting up the company for sale.
 
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