The destruction of Net Neutrality

LateX'Dog · 3 May 2014 at 08:47

In light of recent events:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-aaron/net-neutrality-is-dead-he_b_4596355.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/247w3i/two_years_ago_we_got_organized_and_beat_sopa_now/

Ok i don't understand most of how the internet works so.....

Does the decisions made over the water effect us? Will i get slower access to American sites? Or will the preferential bandwidth only effect Americans?

Could we as the public just make another internet? Completely separate from the current one?

Will things like VPN's and Proxies be able to circumvent the new corporate internet?

OhEsEcks · 3 May 2014 at 08:49

We could completely separate our internet. But then we run the risk of closing in on ourselves. Whereas the net as it is now is very much a global entity.

LateX'Dog · 3 May 2014 at 08:51

OhEsEcks said:
We could completely separate our internet. But then we run the risk of closing in on ourselves. Whereas the net as it is now is very much a global entity.

Could we not just create a similar type of internet that is funded by the public? Moving the majority of the public of the corporate internet and leaving them to that and us to ours?

estebanrey · 3 May 2014 at 08:53

ISPs operate a gateway to the internet, they do not "run" it, this is something Governments keep forgetting. If AT&T decide to slow down access to Facebook for it;s customers, they'll just leave and sign up with one that doesn't.

LateX'Dog · 3 May 2014 at 08:55

estebanrey said:
ISPs operate a gateway to the internet, they do not "run" it, this is something Governments keep forgetting. If AT&T decide to slow down access to Facebook for it;s customers, they'll just leave and sign up with one that doesn't.

But this is the main issue, most of the ISP's are all for corporate internet (Sky TV type internet packages), if all your choice is negative, where does the customer go?

estebanrey · 3 May 2014 at 09:02

LateX'Dog said:
But this is the main issue, most of the ISP's are all for corporate internet (Sky TV type internet packages), if all your choice is negative, where does the customer go?

Sky didn't block piratebay.se until a court forced them to despite it being used to download a lot of their material. I'd say that whilst price is a big issue, open, unlimited and fast internet access is a big selling point for ISPs and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

There will always be independent ISPs, unless the government force a monopoly by making it prohibitively expensive to set them up.

OhEsEcks · 3 May 2014 at 09:03

estebanrey said:
There will always be independent ISPs, unless the government force a monopoly by making it prohibitively expensive to set them up.

Or through legislation. Wasn't that what SOPA was all about in the first place?

Stolly · 3 May 2014 at 09:06

estebanrey said:
ISPs operate a gateway to the internet, they do not "run" it, this is something Governments keep forgetting. If AT&T decide to slow down access to Facebook for it;s customers, they'll just leave and sign up with one that doesn't.

Depends on the ISP, some peer other peoples traffic through their infrastructure, in return for other people peering theirs.

They often fund peering exchanges too, like Linx in London.....

Really its the term ISP that gets misused, it really only applies to the consumer guys like virgin, sky etc.....the actual sites we all use are typically hanging off telco networks like BT, AT&T and Verizon etc...although some companies operate in both spaces....