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GTX880 8GB

Doubt it... not unless you buy 3 of them.

A 780 Ti makes current games play nice at 1080p at a good frame rate. 4K is basically 4 times the resolution of 1080p so we need something like 4 x 780 Ti in GPU power to get the same frame rates we see on 1080p currently with a single 780 Ti.

Even these AMD 295's and Nvidia Z dual cards are not good enough to push good frame rates on 4K in my opinion. Also the crazy pricing of GPU's currently is going to damage 4K uptake, if 780 Ti's were £300 and these dual Z cards were £500-£600 it may have been different, but GPU prices are very silly now and we need to go back to prices like what we had for 5870's when they came out and you got a great boost in speed from the last generation, basically a 5870 was twice as fast as a 4870, we now get minor speed bumps and massive increase in prices. Ridiculous what has happened to the GPU market.
 
Don't 780ti's play 1440p nice? Not checked but a 780,770 and the red teams offerings are more than suitable at 1080p.
Er gregster did post results of 4k play showing that it was very playable with 2 original titans.
I also read on another forum the findings of triple screen, eye infinity with the 4k sammys using 4 290x they were very cable in most games!!!

I'm my opinion I'm guessing one of these will be able (880) to push and 2 being comfortable , I get what your saying though there will probably be only 10-20% increases on card performance for a massive increase in price! :(
 
Purgatory said:
Doubt it... not unless you buy 3 of them.

A 780 Ti makes current games play nice at 1080p at a good frame rate. 4K is basically 4 times the resolution of 1080p so we need something like 4 x 780 Ti in GPU power to get the same frame rates we see on 1080p currently with a single 780 Ti.

Even these AMD 295's and Nvidia Z dual cards are not good enough to push good frame rates on 4K in my opinion.
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Yeah, no.
 
Purgatory said:
Doubt it... not unless you buy 3 of them.

A 780 Ti makes current games play nice at 1080p at a good frame rate. 4K is basically 4 times the resolution of 1080p so we need something like 4 x 780 Ti in GPU power to get the same frame rates we see on 1080p currently with a single 780 Ti.
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No.... that completely depends on what sub-system of the GPU is the bottleneck, and depending on what it is it may only need a second or a third card.
 
@Purgatory - seriously where do you get your information? It's all very well saying 'in my opinion' then spouting something completely wrong, but now that we actually have a range of 4k monitors, a load of benchmarks - so yes, you can have an opinion on it, but facts are available to anyone capable of using google and thankfully we won't need to use your broken crystal ball.

@fantasticCG - you wouldn't need a ti, a standard 780 will give you a great 1440p experience as long as you have a semi decent rig to go with it.
 
don't think it will matter when if has 3200 cores , and high memory clock , 256 bus to save die size , later on probably they will release true high end , same thing happen to 680 and 780 etc.

make card high end milk money later reduce price and release the other one.
 
oweneades said:
At 1080p / 1440p it will be ok as long as the memory is clocked high enough.

The specs look to be basically a GTX690 on a single GPU which based on benchmarks would put it something like 10% in front of a 780TI (based on 690 clocks).
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It won't be okay at all, it's more than likely a mistake anyway.
 
Why do people equate memory with bus size, yet happily sit there with usually small bus 8-16gb system memory.

Bandwidth and capacity aren't related in any sensible way except density and cost limits. As with system memory if you run out of video card memory you take a huge hit accessing data over the pci-e bus. Worse than system data, what isn't in the video card memory and might not be in system memory could be on a hard drive, meaning the data needs to be copied through the cpu to memory, through the cpu to memory reserved for graphics card, then across the pci-e bus to video card memory.

Having more memory than not enough is a complete world of difference, having memory be a bit faster or slower makes no difference when you don't have enough of it.

Gpu's are becoming increasingly about compute and the larger the data set you can store on the graphics card the better. There will also be limits in how much memory you have with HMB, at 128bit per stack, you will have 4 stacks minimum for a 512bit bus card, meaning the lowest memory per stack(I don't know what that limit is but when you're stacking more than one chip it's more than one chips worth) means you need more memory.

There are many more reasons to have more memory on a gpu, and the best one is that running out of memory causes a huge performance hit while having too much only effects power usage, at load, which most gamers don't much care about in reality and not drastic amounts of extra power.
 
I was more interested in the

GM204 Water Cooled Plunger
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in the original article picture.

That makes the report sound as credible as a Hedgehog using an iphone to ring a taxi in order to cross the road safely.

In fact check this webpage I found which looks to be the original manifest and it includes
https://www.zauba.com/import-gm204-hs-code.html

CHEESE - Dairyland White Cheese qty 40
Fritolay Backed Nacho Chips (6/8 oz)
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psychas said:
don't think it will matter when if has 3200 cores , and high memory clock , 256 bus to save die size , later on probably they will release true high end , same thing happen to 680 and 780 etc.

make card high end milk money later reduce price and release the other one.
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I think thats called business.
 
psychas said:
don't think it will matter when if has 3200 cores , and high memory clock , 256 bus to save die size , later on probably they will release true high end , same thing happen to 680 and 780 etc.

make card high end milk money later reduce price and release the other one.
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This didn't actually happen though.
 
llamadal said:
@Purgatory - seriously where do you get your information? It's all very well saying 'in my opinion' then spouting something completely wrong, but now that we actually have a range of 4k monitors, a load of benchmarks - so yes, you can have an opinion on it, but facts are available to anyone capable of using google and thankfully we won't need to use your broken crystal ball.

@fantasticCG - you wouldn't need a ti, a standard 780 will give you a great 1440p experience as long as you have a semi decent rig to go with it.
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780 Ti overclocked editions and 780 overclocked edition results.


BF4 at 4K :-

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Crysis 3 at 4K :-

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As I said in my opinion it's not good enough a single 780 Ti on new games @4K, depending on the game of course. As we see Crysis 3 not even a really new game is showing 20 frames on a 780 Ti overclocked editions. So you think 20 frames is playabale ? :rolleyes:


http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-video-card-roundup_137646


Yes a 780 Ti for 1440p and even a 780 will be nice for that resolution we are talking about 4K here. Seems my crystal ball and googling and reading facts still work well. Also you are not counting in new games coming in the future that will require even more horse power from GPUs, some of the new games that will come will clearly be slide shows if this is the trend how games are getting more and more power hungry. Also Game developers will of course be looking at 4K by then even more and making games look even more spectacular and that will mean a lot better hardware will be required in the next 2-3 years. A 780 Ti is currently the top end single GPU card but won't be long before AMD and Nvidia will have to start giving us a larger boost in performance on newer cards as they had to do when AMD 5870 basically was twice as fast as a 4870, why was that done ? It was done because 1080p gaming really took off and required a lot more horse power to power that resolution for the games that were out and upcoming games. Same will need to be done for 4K to be practical and usable on a single GPU. You also seem to forget the market for SLI and Crossfire is not that big and most users/gamers only want a single GPU to power their games and 20 FPS on their favorite games wont cut it on 4K.
 
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