The 6TB Seagate STBD6000100 UK availability?

hernaldo · 4 May 2014 at 23:49

Hi there, I see this has been available from a certain eggy retailer for import to the UK for £178 + import taxes for the past couple of weeks (now gone up in price to £200 and something).

Does anyone know when this will be available in the UK roughly?
Seems like a very well priced drive considering the capacity.

Thanks.

El_Watcher · 5 May 2014 at 15:31

That would be a heck of a lot of data to lose if it failed :eek:

Not sure I would trust a single drive for that much stuff.

abbotsmike · 5 May 2014 at 15:44

El_Watcher said:
That would be a heck of a lot of data to lose if it failed Not sure I would trust a single drive for that much stuff.

I thought that briefly. Thinking statistically though. If all other things are equal (reliability, MTBF) THen you are twice as likely to suffer data loss on a pair of 3TB drives than a single 6TB drive, and 3 times as likely to suffer a failure on 3 2TB drives than a single 6TB drive.

It can be argued that the single drive failure would be worse because you'd lose a lot more, but less components means less chance of a failure.

KIA · 5 May 2014 at 16:53

El_Watcher said:
That would be a heck of a lot of data to lose if it failed Not sure I would trust a single drive for that much stuff.

RAID for redundancy and backup for peace of mind.

hernaldo · 5 May 2014 at 20:27

El_Watcher said:
That would be a heck of a lot of data to lose if it failed Not sure I would trust a single drive for that much stuff.

I want to upgrade my 2 Microservers with 5 x 4TB drives in RAID5
Certainly wouldn't dream of using just 1 of these for backup of important non replaceable stuff. Obviously RAID5 isn't a safety net per se, and wouldn't initiate a hot rebuild with a failed drive with no further backup but it's a safety net that's worked for me for the past 3 years or so with 10 drives over the 2 servers.

Not sure if a good idea to buy as there seems to be a roadmap floating around of Seagate's intentions to release 8TB and 10TB drives this year and obviously would much prefer drives of that size, means I could get rid of one of the microservers. I'm fairly sure but by no means certain this is just hot air though as hard drive manufacturers have been lying for the past 2 years about release dates, still cashing in on a false supply/demand setup thanks to the floods in Thailand from oooooh about a 100 years ago

LordBarrass · 6 May 2014 at 14:37

Hi Hernaldo,

I am just waiting on pricing from Seagate and also a due date in to us but they will be set up shortly on the site and available for pre-order once I get some confirmed pricing. I will also have more info soon about larger drives so I will be able to either confirm the existence of larger drives and a possible lead time on them for you.

I know the Enterprise edition 6TB drive is available in SATA interface. These will also be set up shortly but you are looking at a retail price of £449.99 for one of these drives.

Anthony

jh30uk · 6 May 2014 at 15:33

Are they gas filled?

nightmare99 · 6 May 2014 at 19:34

Are they gas filled?

I'm pretty sure Seagate said they didn't need to use gas yet for their drives.

james.miller · 6 May 2014 at 19:34

no, seagate isnt gas filled. It also uses 5x platters vs 7 (!!) helium-filled HE6

jh30uk · 6 May 2014 at 20:19

Well would be safer/more stable with Gas with that many platters.

I will stick to WD.

hernaldo · 6 May 2014 at 20:22

abarrass said:
Hi Hernaldo,

I am just waiting on pricing from Seagate and also a due date in to us but they will be set up shortly on the site and available for pre-order once I get some confirmed pricing. I will also have more info soon about larger drives so I will be able to either confirm the existence of larger drives and a possible lead time on them for you.

I know the Enterprise edition 6TB drive is available in SATA interface. These will also be set up shortly but you are looking at a retail price of £449.99 for one of these drives.

Anthony

Really appreciate you taking the time to post this info, I'll hold on then and pre-order from you guys, should avoid any potential warranty problems.

demon8991 · 6 May 2014 at 22:36

jh30uk said:
Well would be safer/more stable with Gas with that many platters.

I will stick to WD.

Me too mate, after having too many Seagates fail on me I will be very reluctant to ever use them again.

darael · 7 May 2014 at 00:24

These drives also use more power than Hitachi's drives, which likely means more heat. That aside, I don't trust Seagate harddrives at all now.

Combat Fighter · 7 May 2014 at 13:37

Wow. 6TB drives. That's pretty big!

hernaldo · 7 May 2014 at 20:07

darael said:
These drives also use more power than Hitachi's drives, which likely means more heat. That aside, I don't trust Seagate harddrives at all now.

Have to agree on the reliability of Hitachi drives, they may use more spindles than the competitors green power rubbish or those "designed for NAS RED drive" and run a bit hotter (not talking about the latest helium enterprise ones, just consumer)...But have always found they just work in a NAS with no hassle of parking issues or data loss at a reasonable price.

bledd · 7 May 2014 at 21:50

Can't wait for 4TB SSD (at a reasonable price)

Nasher · 8 May 2014 at 08:58

darael said:
These drives also use more power than Hitachi's drives, which likely means more heat. That aside, I don't trust Seagate harddrives at all now.

My last Seagate drive went bang, with smoke and everything

Since then I've been using a Hitachi deathstar and it's been fine. Even though they were said to be un-reliable.

ZXSpectrum · 8 May 2014 at 09:34

I probably use in excess of 1000 Seagate HDDs in a year from 500gb to 3Tb and have the lowest return ratio out of all the other manufacturers available. We have been using Seagate IDE, SATA, SCSI and SAS for over 15 years and they are by far the most reliable drives available in my opinion.

james.miller · 8 May 2014 at 11:41

Nasher said:
My last Seagate drive went bang, with smoke and everything

Since then I've been using a Hitachi deathstar and it's been fine. Even though they were said to be un-reliable.

no they weren't. The IBM deskstar, well one or two models of them, were the unreliable drives. This was back when 80gb drives were all the rage. the deskstar name is the only thing the hitachi drives have in common.

Incidentally, Hitachi Global Storage Technologies, who originally bought IBM's drive business, is now owned and manufactured by western digital.

hernaldo said:
Have to agree on the reliability of Hitachi drives, they may use more spindles than the competitors green power rubbish {western digital} or those "designed for NAS RED drive" {western digital} and run a bit hotter (not talking about the latest helium enterprise ones, just consumer)...But have always found they just work in a NAS with no hassle of parking issues or data loss at a reasonable price.

heh.

crinkleshoes · 8 May 2014 at 21:21

I've had some horrible reliability issues with the Seagate 3TB drives.. I would wait for the WD release

3 of 6 3TB drives failed within 18 months, no wonder they only come with 1 year warranty now rather than the 3 or 5 years they used to come with.

Be careful... there seem to be quite a few with seagate realibility issues lately.

My WD Red drives are holding strong, performing well

And a couple of pounds for a 5 year warranty instead of 1... well worth it!!