Food labelled as suitable for vegetarians

[Hodders]

Humans are the only animal that imposes these kind of arbitrary dietary limitation on themselves.

Cows are herbivores, but of course they will eat some animals in their diet, slugs, worms, beetles will all occasionally get caught up in the grass/vegetation.

I find the "I'm a vegetarian but I east some fish" line just bonkers. Eat what you want, don't eat what you don't want to. But losing the plot over the fact that the same wooden spoon has been used to stir both the chilli-con-carne and the quorn based chilli-sin-carni is several steps down the loony trail to my mind.

If you cant taste it then to all intents it isn't there.

Allergies are, of course, different.

Vegetarians - do you drink wine (fish finings), do you sit on leather seats where does it stop ?

This post is not veggie bashing, if you don't want to eat meat then that's fine. What this post does say is that getting obsessed about ZERO meat is just a little bit bonkers.

 

[Usher]

I'm part vegetarian, I eat fish but don't eat meat, many sweet & dessert products contain Gelatin which is scraped off the back of pig & beef & horse hides ( yes horse products are likely to be in your Muller yoghourt even though perfectly good substitutes are available many manufacturers lose custom not only because of vegetarians but of religious avoidance of beef or pork products

 

[Gilly]

In fact it does (need an animal to be slaughtered). Parmesan is a protected food so must be produced the traditional way to be labelled as such - that involves using animal rennet. Parmesan cannot be vegetarian by definition.

You can get Parmesan substitutes which are vegetarian, but they can't be called parmesan.

Are you sure that's not Parmigiano-Reggiano?

I knew this was protected, but I didn't realise Parmesan itself was.

I'm part vegetarian, I eat fish but don't eat meat

I don't recognise 'part-vegetarian' as even existing. You have decided that you won't eat certain types of animal. It doesn't make you a vegetarian just as much as not eating red meat but eating any white meat doesn't make you part vegetarian; it just makes you picky.

 

[pitchfork]

In fact it does (need an animal to be slaughtered). Parmesan is a protected food so must be produced the traditional way to be labelled as such - that involves using animal rennet. Parmesan cannot be vegetarian by definition.

You can get Parmesan substitutes which are vegetarian, but they can't be called parmesan.

I would argue that rennet is a product of an animal like milk or eggs

Not all vegetarians are that strict.

 

[cheesyboy]

Are you sure that's not Parmigiano-Reggiano?

I knew this was protected, but I didn't realise Parmesan itself was.



I don't recognise 'part-vegetarian' as even existing. You have decided that you won't eat certain types of animal. It doesn't make you a vegetarian just as much as not eating red meat but eating any white meat doesn't make you part vegetarian; it just makes you picky.

Parmesan is just the English (French) name for Parmigiano-Reggiano. It's all protected

 

[glitch]

I would argue that rennet is a product of an animal like milk or eggs

I think most vegetarians would argue that rennet, unlike milk or eggs, requires the slaughter of an animal.

 

[cheesyboy]

I would argue that rennet is a product of an animal like milk or eggs

Not all vegetarians are that strict.

Except you have to kill calves to extract the rennet from their stomachs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennet#Production_of_natural_calf_rennet

 

[Gilly]

Yeah, the extraction of rennet is a by-product of the butchery of the animal. I didn't realise 'Parmesan' was a controlled name, that's all. That means that the traditional method has to be used to come under that name rather than any non-animal sourced rennet product.

 

[glitch]

Speaking of vegetarians, anyone fancy some Linda McCartney Fish Free Scampi?

I'm definitely someone with a 'sturdier appetite' and I do like my potatoes to be cooked 'el dente' - arriba!

 

[Mr Jones]

I'm part vegetarian, I eat fish but don't eat meat, many sweet & dessert products contain Gelatin which is scraped off the back of pig & beef & horse hides ( yes horse products are likely to be in your Muller yoghourt even though perfectly good substitutes are available many manufacturers lose custom not only because of vegetarians but of religious avoidance of beef or pork products

Who ever comes up with this "perfectly good substitutes" to Gelatin, give me a call. For now, it's the Holy Grail.

The good sub you're on about is modified starch, which gives the bulk but nothing close to gelatin. Gelatin is the only few material, like chocolate, melts at around body temperature to give this thick but lush mouth feel found in your sugar confectionary / yogurt.

 

[Guerrilla]

Some vegetarians will eat dairy products (myself included), not sure if there is a separate name for us or not though, but it is normally easy enough to tell whether it is dairy or not

Apparently it's Lacto-vegetarian, or Lactarian.

There is also...

Ovo vegetarianism, in which eggs are eaten.

Ovo-lacto vegetarianism, in which eggs and dairy are eaten.

and Pescetarianism where fish is eaten.

I've learned so much today

 

[MrMoonX]

Who ever comes up with this "perfectly good substitutes" to Gelatin, give me a call. For now, it's the Holy Grail.

The good sub you're on about is modified starch, which gives the bulk but nothing close to gelatin. Gelatin is the only few material, like chocolate, melts at around body temperature to give this thick but lush mouth feel found in your sugar confectionary / yogurt.

There's plenty, go to m&s and buy veggie Percy pigs, no difference except for the lack of disgusting animal parts

 

[glitch]

There's plenty, go to m&s and buy veggie Percy pigs, no difference except for the lack of disgusting animal parts

There's a huge difference - the texture alone is nothing like the originals!

 

[Mr Jones]

There's plenty, go to m&s and buy veggie Percy pigs, no difference except for the lack of disgusting animal parts

Percy Pigs are of a completely different recipe, it's not a simple change gelatine for modified starch. Along with the airation and clarity, there's big differences.

That said, it doesn't mean it's bad - just a different type of confectionary texture which I personally like too.

BTW: I'm of chinese origins. I eat every part of a pig. Just because it contains disgusting parts that you don't eat it, doesn't mean the rest of the population / world don't.

 

[glitch]

You're very knowledgeable about all this, Mr Jones; do you work in the food industry in some way or have you just genned up on this for personal reasons?

 

[Glaucus]

ce except for the lack of disgusting animal parts

Just couldn't help replying, bahhhhaaahhhhaaaaaa your funny. And need to respect animals by eating more of them or none of them.

 

[Mr Jones]

You're very knowledgeable about all this, Mr Jones; do you work in the food industry in some way or have you just genned up on this for personal reasons?

I develop sweets for a big German Confectionary.

e: Both Vegetarian and Gelatin products I might add. So I'm not in favour of one over another.

 

[glitch]

I develop sweets for a big German Confectionary.

Ah, hence the location and signature!