for those who know their swords

Bet that bottom one was expensive? Looks very nice.

My Grandma has a sword that is hidden inside a walking stick. I might see if she still has it, but have a feeling it could be illegal to own with the blade being hidden?

Depends on its age - if it qualifies as an antique (there's a defined age for this) then it's fine to own. Just don't go swaggering around with it ;) unless you have 'good reason' for doing so (taking it to sell, display, get valued etc. as it has absolutely no legitimate use as a bushcraft blade or suchlike!). Even then common sense would be to wrap it in an inaccessible manner until you reach your destination.
 
Some of them swords look like cavalry swords especially the french straight sabre? Could it be modelled on napoleonic cavalry or something because of the tendancy to stab with a straight sabre as opposed to the curved british cavalry sabre and the swing method?


Also those markings used to be highly prized watch the episode of weapons that made britain- the sword to find out about them.
 
I only know a little about antique swords, but here's my two ducats:

If it's not a cheap reproduction then the original production value was very poor indeed. The guard looks thin as anything and the quillon strange. The tang looks worrying slim too and it's lost the leather patch that sits between scabbard mouth and hilt. At least it has the scabbard, but the leather looks withdrawn. The chape's still on the end though, although the shoe is a bit of a strange shape. The grip looks to be leather, well-polished from handling, and bound in twist wire. The blade appears to be acid-etched as better quality swords are. It is a back sword, meaning that the true edge is sharpened only (if it was even sharpened in the first place: there are plenty of proper, antique sabres around today that were never sharpened - I have one). It has a rather lengthy ricasso, all of it ending in a spear point. The tang button appears to be a nut. Obviously, hard to tell exact details from your photographs. Oh, and you have lovely slippers.


This won't be worth much when it comes to antique swords, but it's an interesting piece, nonetheless.

Please post a photo or two of the second sword!

I can't remember he last time I read a post with so little idea what was being talked about. I don't even know if you're making half of those words up or not :p Bravo on some specialised knowledge, sir.
 
I have a sword pretty similar sword to the one in the op and another of similar design in a blue velvet scabbard with gold brocade, very tacky. Been sitting in the back of a cupboard for at least 20 years. Always assumed they worthless.
 
I can't remember he last time I read a post with so little idea what was being talked about. I don't even know if you're making half of those words up or not :p Bravo on some specialised knowledge, sir.

Thanks, but I have a very long way to go with this stuff. :)

I have a sword pretty similar sword to the one in the op and another of similar design in a blue velvet scabbard with gold brocade, very tacky. Been sitting in the back of a cupboard for at least 20 years. Always assumed they worthless.

Post pictures, you never know. A chap on another board sold off a sword for a couple of hundred pounds only to find out it was sold on for seven thousand!
 
Bet that bottom one was expensive? Looks very nice.

My Grandma has a sword that is hidden inside a walking stick. I might see if she still has it, but have a feeling it could be illegal to own with the blade being hidden?

Was this your grandad
 
I used to have exactly the same sword as the OP back in about 1980. Cost about £5 in a second-hand shop. I'm guessing you probably can't buy them like that now. Yes, the steel is pretty poor quality. The metal of the guard is just cheap stamped steel. The blade looked like someone with an angle-grinder had done the fullers. And yes, that's a simple nut on the end. I would assume that they were mass produced on the cheap for the Indian Army: I too was told that it was an Indian Cavalry sabre. Well-made swords are fine for rich British officers, but another matter for poor natives. I think most people are not aware of how much a good fighting (as opposed to display) sword can cost.


As for sword sticks, AFAIK the situation is as a couple of people have said: you can own one, and even display it in your house, but you cannot carry it in public unless it is wrapped up, and you have a good reason to be carrying it. FWIW, gun-sticks are completely illegal (Section V firearms), but they are even rarer.
 
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