AMD signs up 40 development studios for Mantle

ocmanus · 10 May 2014 at 09:54

Sin_Chase said:
They have already admitted their current architecture is trash and are going back to a different architecture. Unfortunately it leaves them a year behind in R&D.

Did anyone get pushed for that?

tommybhoy · 10 May 2014 at 10:01

LtMatt said:
they won't be adding Physx though.

Nothing wrong with that.

More might buy it then.

ICEx21 · 10 May 2014 at 10:58

LtMatt said:
I made lots of people buy that and many still have not forgiven me.

Our gaming clan started in AvP2 so we were so looking forward to this, got a few people to buy it as well and it constantly gets brought up

Still, it wasn't as bad as me getting about 9 people on my friends list to buy Lego Lord of the Rings because of the multiplayer and then only to discover it was local multiplayer only.

humbug · 10 May 2014 at 12:51

LtMatt said:
It looks like another studio might provide Mantle support, thought they've not officially announced it yet. Interestingly this was the exact same reply Crytek gave when asked about Mantle a few months back. Perhaps an omen. This time its Creative Assembly and the game is Alien Isolation. Looks like a scary, survival horror single player game and one for Aliens fans.

Trailer 1 - Console Footage

Trailer 2 - Console Footage

Unfortunately for our green friends they won't be adding Physx though.

Full Interview
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Alien...ien-Isolation-Exklusives-Interview-1116956/2/

More Mantle Games, Bring it.

AlamoX · 10 May 2014 at 13:34

one game i am disapointed in is dragon age inquisition, at apu14 dice said that EA games will have mantle support, and one of the franchise shown was dragon age, but untill now i haven't heard about it supporting mantle

LtMatt · 10 May 2014 at 13:38

AlamoX said:
one game i am disapointed in is dragon age inquisition, at apu14 dice said that EA games will have mantle support, and one of the franchise shown was dragon age, but untill now i haven't heard about it supporting mantle

Its in development along with 20+ other titles.

Gregster · 10 May 2014 at 13:41

AlamoX · 10 May 2014 at 13:43

well i hope it supports mantle like they said, cuz mass effect and dragon age & dead space is an automatic buy for me

Gregster · 10 May 2014 at 13:46

AlamoX said:
well i hope it supports mantle like they said, cuz mass effect and dragon age & dead space is an automatic buy for me

Just out of curiosity, what is your system?

AlamoX · 10 May 2014 at 13:50

msi 970A46G ,corsair 850+gold, FX8350, cfx r9 280x, 8 Go DDR, win7 64bits

shankly1985 · 10 May 2014 at 13:56

Star Wars Battlefront

Heard so meny good things about Battlefront be sure to give this one a try.

GoogalyMoogaly · 10 May 2014 at 14:04

LtMatt said:
Its in development along with 20+ other titles.

lol @ "Want multi-vendor & multi-platform support".
If you're wishing for things that seem extremely unlikely to happen why not include things like "market domination", "only API used by all developers, ever" and "putting rivals out of business"!

Maybe it'll happen, but I can't see why Nvidia and Intel would get behind this AMD tech instead of DirectX 12 and hope that DX12 + lack of multi-vendor support relegates Mantle to OpenGL levels.

humbug · 10 May 2014 at 16:39

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Maybe it'll happen, but I can't see why Nvidia and Intel would get behind this AMD tech instead of DirectX 12 and hope that DX12 + lack of multi-vendor support relegates Mantle to OpenGL levels.

No one talking about "instead of DirectX 12" which has a lot to live upto and a lot to prove when it eventually shows up, Microsoft's gaming interest are on the Console, not the PC and DX11 is a pile of junk so don't get your hopes up.

GoogalyMoogaly · 10 May 2014 at 16:48

humbug said:
No one talking about "instead of DirectX 12" which has a lot to live upto and a lot to prove when it eventually shows up, Microsoft's gaming interest are on the Console, not the PC and DX11 is a pile of junk so don't get your hopes up.

I can't see why they'd do it as well as DirectX 12 either. Don't see what's in it for them.

And DX 11 has served me pretty well over the years. Currently it's done a hell of a lot more for my gaming needs than Mantle has. At the minute I wouldn't put a Mantle game in my top 10 list, or my top 20 list. Probably wouldn't get in my top 30 either if I sat down and made a top 30 list.

Everyone's being very quick to write off DX 12 just because it's not a PC exclusive. Should we write Mantle off as a Windows API if it starts supporting Linux and Apple OS's? I mean AMD have their hardware in consoles too, so do we just assume that AMD don't care about PC either?

humbug · 10 May 2014 at 17:07

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I can't see why they'd do it as well as DirectX 12 either. Don't see what's in it for them.

And DX 11 has served me pretty well over the years. Currently it's done a hell of a lot more for my gaming needs than Mantle has. At the minute I wouldn't put a Mantle game in my top 10 list, or my top 20 list. Probably wouldn't get in my top 30 either if I sat down and made a top 30 list.

Everyone's being very quick to write off DX 12 just because it's not a PC exclusive. Should we write Mantle off as a Windows API if it starts supporting Linux and Apple OS's? I mean AMD have their hardware in consoles too, so do we just assume that AMD don't care about PC either?

AMD are bringing Console API's to the PC, something developers have been asking for for years with Microsoft refusing to do so.

MS have used their PC API dominance to hold the PC back, to stop it getting further ahead of their more profitable Console ECO system.

Since Mantle MS are now talking up the new API, DX12, because they have to, their PC API dominance is under threat, not just from Mantle but also OpenGL now getting more attention.

Their is no evidence that Microsoft's position has changed. Consoles are still their cash cow and PC Gaming is still an inconvenience to them.

Its a lot of noise from a company only interested in preserving their dominance so they can continue holding it back.

tommybhoy · 10 May 2014 at 17:07

humbug said:
DX11 is a pile of junk

Disagree with you there, at worst it's held back the true performance of gpu's, lets hope the next one loosens the leash holding back the remarkable power of PC's.

humbug · 10 May 2014 at 17:10

read above you Tommy.

GoogalyMoogaly · 10 May 2014 at 17:11

humbug said:
AMD are bringing Console API's to the PC, something developers have been asking for for years with Microsoft refusing to do so.

MS have used their PC API dominance to hold the PC back, to stop it getting further ahead of their more profitable Console ECO system.

Since Mantle MS are now talking up the new API, DX12, because they have to, their PC API dominance is under threat, not just from Mantle but also OpenGL now getting more attention.

Their is no evidence that Microsoft's position has changed. Consoles are still their cash cow and the PC is still an inconvenience to them.

Aren't Microsoft also bringing a console API to the PC, it's just that they're bringing it to both at the same time. Why is one good but the other bad?

Who really cares why MS are releasing DX12?
I mean AMD didn't release the 290 until after the 780, so does that mean that AMD's had was forced by Nvidia bringing out new hardware? If it wasn't for Nvidia would AMD have let PC hardware stagnate to keep their console hardware more relevant?

humbug · 10 May 2014 at 17:15

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Aren't Microsoft also bringing a console API to the PC, it's just that they're bringing it to both at the same time. Why is one good but the other bad?

What Microsoft are doing is making a lot of noise, what that noise turns into remains to be seen.

GoogalyMoogaly · 10 May 2014 at 17:17

humbug said:
What Microsoft are doing is making a lot of noise, what that noise turns into remains to be seen.

The same could be said for every game made by the 40 development studios being talked about in this thread (which is also a lot of noise).