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I'm pretty sure this is the L2 trial I used:

Go to this link.

Click 'I am already registered' on the left.

Use the following code and click continue: L2trial

That should give you a free week of L2 access but it also lets you use the advanced stock screener and market scan and all of the other paid-for features which is pretty good.
 
Naked trader mentions that some spreadbet providers give it you free if you use them enough - but not seen anything like that from IG yet unless I start trading CFD's (which is a whole ball game I'm not getting into just yet!)

It shouldn't really apply to most spread betting providers as they offer their own quotes in their own parallel market which shadow the underlying... less of a reason to provide you with an order book reflecting prices you can't actually trade at with them.

CFD providers that let you interact with the order book obviously have a reason to provide you with the order book - you're trading with the actual market and paying a commission not just betting against a two way quote they've provided.
 
I opened an account and deposited £200 with TD Direct to see what it was like after reading about the way they handled FX share purchases.

Not the best experience, are any of the online brokers as good as Hargreaves ? where everything... just works
 
Interesting day for Blinx today, up nearly 20%!

I realise they are still down a long, long way from where the 'should' be trading but today has to be a positive sign.

I actually fluked a win on Blinx today.

I was planning on shorting (spread bet) if they broke out down past resistance at 60.

This morning they dipped into the 58s so I shorted with a stop-loss at 62. Almost as soon as I placed the order they started to bounce so I closed the position at 60 but forgot that on TradeFair, you have to close the corresponding buy/sell order that's created when you set up a stop.

Obviously as soon as the price went through 62 I automatically went long and I'm now up £70 (when taking into account the initial loss).

Fingers crossed this is the beginning of the end of the crash for Blinx and I can ride the wave up!

Also, it bodes well for QPP if / when the tide turns for them.

I'm long from 20 at @ £10p/p so looking forward to a big rise back up to 40 and beyond. :)
 
I seemed to be on one of those streaks where everything you back crashes horrendously. Did it with Tertiary Minerals and did it recently with Blinx.

Once they started picking up again i thought the drop was over and as far as i'm concerned they've got decent fundamentals. Nope, down about 30%!
 
60 is a good point for blnx. Lots of buy and sells there, todays volume was above average but I would guess this is more of a bounce after a long fall then genuine turn around unless there is other facts. It has to prove more

Tertiary doesnt look a good short now. Volatile for some reason, not flawed ?

Anglo Asian down 20% today on its second profit warning. They will still make a profit though I think its not so dire? Not every miner does. Its just really disliked, ex soviet and next to Iran \o/
15p is big level for them, they need to regain that quickly to not look much worse

T3 says GLD above 125.5 and onto 126 is hopeful of breaking its 2 year downtrend. Would be a nice save for quite a few miners at this point


A share that's caught my attention is LMS capital [LMS].

It's a small-cap investment company and on the surface the fundamentals aren't that exciting.

The share looks very strong on its graph. Only thing is maybe proving, with more volume at 80 or above, its past that previous peak.

Bit of a wow graph, its a wanted stock for whatever reason


TSLA on the other hand is good but not nearly as strong, its at the 200 day average price which right or wrong, a lot of people watch. This average marked two previous lows. Good above 170

CNA is maybe staying above 320 as its falling on less volume then it rose apparently

Ive sold Sainsbury all when I should have bought more, kept more. Nice div at 5% :)
 
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Would now be a bad time to by BARC given tomorrow is the Record Date for their Dividend and they normally drop by the dividend amount?

The price drops by the dividend on the 'Ex-Div' date. The record date is the day after the day that new shares do not qualify for dividend payment.

So if you bought shares tomorrow you wouldn't be eligible for a dividend payment on the payment date but you would still suffer the price drop on the ex-div.

It might be worth waiting for the share to go ex-div before buying, on the proviso that you think between now and the ex-div date the price isn't going to increase by more than the dividend fall.

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Funny old Blinx, rocketed yesterday and straight back down today.

I had a trailing loss so didn't lose all of my gains from yesterday. Think I'll keep an eye on it and try and ride the dips.
 
EZJ swinging about as usual, down to 1550 now, for the info of any fellow spread betters. I've sold twice at 1720.

ABF still has more to drop although it's 60p down from my last few sells of 3000.
 
The price drops by the dividend on the 'Ex-Div' date. The record date is the day after the day that new shares do not qualify for dividend payment.
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Yeah it's the record date tomorrow so i worked out there shouldn't be the div drop.

Got in on BARC at 15.59, minute before closing :)
 
Ah gotch a, so you will be entitled to the div on payment day, nice one. :)

No, no I thought I had to buy on the ex-div date for that. The ex-div date was a few days ago.

"The 'ex-dividend' date. This is normally the second business day prior to the record date. Since record dates are generally a Friday, this means that most ex-dividend dates are on a Wednesday.

Ex-dividend dates are fixed this way because of settlement times. On the T+3 system operated in the UK (i.e. a trade settles three days after it is executed), investors need to buy a stock three days prior to the record date (that's to say, the day before the ex-dividend date) to be sure of qualifying for the dividend payment, since three days for settlement is needed before the shareholder's name goes on the register."

Not there for the divs this time, jus an increase :)
 
Has this link been posted yet to stop shorting? I think it is a worthy cause. Shorters do kill the markets.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/search?q=make+shorting+illegal

I'm in two minds on this. I don't actually think shorting should be banned. The last few events that have led to that petition (Blinx, Quindell et al) appear to be coordinated attacks based on falsified reports akin to insider trading (which is illegal anyway).

A tougher crackdown on those involved in the attacks would lead to a better outcome than an outright ban.

The difficulty comes when you have the likes of Gotham City Research - based in a foreign country with different laws and authorities.
 
I'm ok with shorting as it keeps management honest and acts as a counterbalance to the natural tendency of investors to not cut their losses because "it will come back". What I am against is naked shorting - anyone doing that needs to be in jail and banned from the markets for life.

The QPP one is interesting. As its been played out, I'm viewing it more of an extended tree shake to push out the hot money. Looking back a bit, the price is now where it was in January (only 4 months ago). The doubling of price end of Jan to mid Feb was possibly too much too fast and hence a correction was overdue. QPP had a very large proportion of private investors and I think they paniced without doing proper research.

I looked at this at the time and it was immediately apparent that Gotham was something anyone with a bit of knowledge could throw together. No contact details, no address or phone numbers published and only twitter accounts - which are very hard to track back to real owners as twitter fight for privacy. Less than 5 minutes research showed it was from a suspect source. Had people followed the maxim of DYOR they would have been picking holes in Gotham's "report" themselves without having to wait for QPP's rebuttal.

Of course this is all easy for me to say as I had no stake in QPP at the time and lost nothing. It was on my watch list and I was looking for a pull back to get in. Having done research following all the publicity I think I'm in for a nice little recovery play.
 
The div thing is confusing from settlement, it does take 3 days to actually buy a share I think

Thats a form of leverage bringing us back to shorting. Theres nothing wrong then that, the majority of stocks bought are done with hot money or money that must be returned sometimes overnight

The corrupt part would be false data. When I first started this around bear stearns in 2008, Halifax lost an absolute ton. Was very big news, how could this happen, this was paired to Bank of Scotland hence Salmon's spivs quote
He was wrong and the shorting was in line with 200bn required by HBOS over the next fiscal year, it was a problem
http://www.scotsman.com/news/alex-s...eaded-off-the-spivs-and-speculators-1-1437728

Shorting should be legal but bear raids perhaps are illegal mostly. This is where a stock with 100k of shares may have 1 broker selling 1 million of them into the market, they dont exist and cant. It takes 3 days for the broker to admit they never had any shares to sell and the trades are cancelled but not before the price drops to zero. Nothing close to that should be possible but naked positions are not likely to be outlawed.

Look at Porsche vs WV for a big shorting risk/return case


QPP seems to be building above 18p. Shame :(

AAZ Im not sure about, its not even properly traded really. I guess it stays above 10p but gold is coming down not breaking out as per usual
http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...-mining-centamin-plc-and-nord-gold-16194.html Anglo Asian Mining* (LON:AAZ) – Accounting treatment causes company to warn on results • Anglo Asian Mining today report that it expects its company results to be ‘significantly reduced’. • The company is in the process of preparing its financial results for last year and expects profits to be hit by higher sales costs and by ‘accounting treatment’. • The revaluation the cost of inventory carried such as copper concentrates, stockpiled ore and gold within the circuit may account for much of the accounting adjustment for the results. • We believe the company’s cash balance of $5.4m at end 2013 should not be affected. • The company remains cash generative and continues to pay down its debt with $51.7m outstanding at the end of last year. • The statement is disappointing but we do not see the accounting treatment of the forthcoming results to affect the running of the company. • We forecast Anglo Asian’s total operating cash costs to be around US$641/oz for 2014 and US$585/oz 2015. These costs do not include administration and do not account for the impact of the PSA, production share agreement. • We will revise our forecasts on publication of the results. Conclusion: The revaluation of the cost of inventory should not impact the operation of the business. Gold production is forecast to remain steady at 64,500oz this year and 71,000oz in 2015 (our forecast) with lower grade gold ore from the Gedabek mine sweetened by higher grade ore from the new Gosha gold mine. The company reported potential for new high grade gold and copper resources just 400m to the north of the Gedabek gold mine in January. We continue to look forward to further news on this front. * SP Angel acts as Nomad & Broker to Anglo Asian Mining

Funny old Blinx, rocketed yesterday and straight back down today.

Thats what I was blathering on about basically. It hit the floor, 60p is a fairly solid area. So good rise but over 10 days, nothing big. Pullback is natural, everyone takes some profit, its a self forfilling thing.
Doesnt mean its done for, might not go back to 60
 
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QPP seems to be building above 18p. Shame :(

Yep, looks like it's on track for a nice slow and steady rise until something big happens like a new contract RNS or the promotion to the main market.



Thats what I was blathering on about basically. It hit the floor, 60p is a fairly solid area. So good rise but over 10 days, nothing big. Pullback is natural, everyone takes some profit, its a self forfilling thing.
Doesnt mean its done for, might not go back to 60.

Yep, it's back up again today (should have held on).

Looks like it's struggling to break resistance at 75p - it's just approaching that point again and it will be the third time of asking in two days (apart from that silly spike to 78p yesterday morning).

I'm going to wait until next week - if it drops back on Monday I'll try and get in. Alternatively, if it can break out past 75p then it should be good up to 90p and the 50 SMA.
 
Interesting thread. Good luck to all! I'd just say be careful about spread betting. I have seen many men lose a fortune of this by trying to dig themselves out of hole when things go wrong (including me). I dropped 20k on one trade alone and some guys in my place lost 100k. I am totally out of that game now

Also technical analysis can be snake oil. There is no mathematical proof whatsoever behind any of this and is not use at all internally in any investment bank. Its a tool we use to give to clients, we cannot trade on technical analysis, it’s a regulation. However, that’s not to say you can’t make money, there is a lot to be said for psychology of investing which is implicitly technical analysis of course!
 
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