Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?

Who will you be voting for?


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There aren't any, I grew up in South Africa.

I've been in the UK for 12 years, not claimed any sort of benefits/JSA in that time, made use of the NHS a grand total of 5 times (never any hospital visits), and worked my way up from part-time video rental shop worker, to full-time internet cafe worker, to call center worker, to analyst, to my current role as a project manager.
How did you support yourself part-time video rental salary must have minimum wage?
 
More so than labour !! Who champion themselves as a party for the working class. What have they done for the working class?

Quite a lot actually. How about the minimum wage for starters ? It helped push tens of thousands of families in the UK above the poverty line. Do you deny this ?
 
This is why we have a government. The top few of the EU are unelected and do what they want. 76% of our laws are now made in Brussels.
Next the EU will be telling us when to go to bed!

It's a lot more than a few.
 
You paint a picture of work hard sweat off your brow but am sure you claimed for housing benefit council tax discounts etc etc etc
How did you afford your rent doing a part time video rental job ? that wouldn't have covered the cost of even the worst of bedsits.

I was crashing on my brother's couch. I have never claimed any sort of benefit. It certainly was fun trying to feed 3 people on £10 a week back then.

Once I got a full-time job, I moved to a room-share in a grotty council flat, and then progressed.
 
It was the EU that gave us the minimum wage not labour.

Nonsense.

Labour's 1997 election manifesto pledged to introduce a minimum wage at the earliest opportunity. In July that year, the government set up the Low Pay Commission (LPC), with a remit to advise on the rate of the NMW, and in November, the national minimum wage bill was introduced to parliament.

The LPC submitted its first report in June 1998, and the government accepted its recommended rate of £3.60 per hour, but rejected the proposed youth rate of £3.20, opting instead for £3. The Act received royal assent in July 1998.

Source ---> http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/national-minimum-wage
 
Do you understand what it means to be factually incorrect? This isn't a matter of opinion, the argument you presented is demonstrably wrong.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/11/05/uk-britain-migrants-idUKBRE9A40MD20131105

"If you look at those immigrants who came after 1999, both EA (Euro Area) and non-EA immigrants have made a positive fiscal contribution," Christian Dustmann, co-author of the report from University College London, told Reuters.

"Over the same period, native-born individuals basically took more out of the welfare system than they put in, in terms of taxes."
You can create any surveys and stats to suit your argument doesn't make it fact.
Does it take in to account everything they take out ? I very very much doubt it.
 
More so than labour !! Who champion themselves as a party for the working class. What have they done for the working class?
Flooded us with migrants, drove wages down and house prices up and hard to find.

Yay for labour helping eastern Europeans live the dream.

I do not disagree at all that Labour were a disaster!

You mean a bit like you think there is a god? One is real the other(god) is for weak people ;)
I think you've mistaken my liberal stance on people believing in God as my personal beliefs, which is wrong. I don't believe in God, I don't disbelieve in God.

What I don't like is people like yourself espousing your insulting bigoted point of view that people who do believe in a God are stupid, weak minded, and foolish.
 
You can create any surveys and stats to suit your argument doesn't make it fact.
Does it take in to account everything they take out ? I very very much doubt it.

"I don't believe your reports as they don't agree with what I think. I however am not going to back up my claims, I will just repeat them."
 
What's wrong with immigrants coming here and finding work ? It's perfectly legal. I have no problem with it. Are you a xenophobe ? :confused:

because people can come and get a basic menial unskilled part time job and have their housing paid for by the tax payer ? point is us brits cannot do that in the other euro countries

where else in europe can you take your family get a 16 hour a week minimum wage job and get your housing paid for and wages topped up ? having paid nothing in
 
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Why on earth do people think a UKIP vote is going to protect the working classes :confused:

It's bizarre isn't it. The UKIP support base is extraordinarily out of kilter with the policies of the party. I guess it's an easy argument to blame EU labour for poor wages and difficulty finding jobs despite the complete lack of truth behind those claims.
 
because they can come and get a basic menial unskilled part time job and have their housing paid for by the tax payer ?

But it's legal so what's the problem ? You do understand that we have an immigration policy right ? And that this policy allows for such things right ? People are not banned from coming here and trying to start a new life you know and they should be helped to do that if they fit the legal requirements, which most do.
 
Why on earth do people think a UKIP vote is going to protect the working classes :confused:

I don't understand this either. Personally I really wouldn't be against the coalition continuing for another term, as it pains me to say it, but they've done a good job considering the circumstances they started with. Its the first government since I can remember thats actually increased funding to scientific research for a start. The recovery of our economy is also stronger than any other EU nation, which people shouldn't forget, especially when germany is seen as the prime EU nation in terms of economic clout. We need to be in a strong position for any re-negotiation of the lisbon treaty to take place and I feel that this government has paved the way for that to happen.

UKIP on the other hand will destroy this country from the foundations upward. Voting for them is like trying to spark a match whilst dowsing yourself in gasoline.
 
Why on earth do people think a UKIP vote is going to protect the working classes :confused:

this

what happened to all the tories that defected to Ukip? - and the fact that UKIP is splitting the tory vote - how could that much tory influence have working class interests at heart?

people seem to forget that Nigel himself was a tory ! as where a great deal of MEP and UKIP party members
 
It's bizarre isn't it. The UKIP support base is extraordinarily out of kilter with the policies of the party. I guess it's an easy argument to blame EU labour for poor wages and difficulty finding jobs despite the complete lack of truth behind those claims.

Because they want to stop over supply of the unskilled labor market just to name one thing.Like I said it used to be the case fair days pay for fair days work but now employers have free reign to keep wages low because an immigrant will work twice as hard and be grateful because they are coming from a place much worse.

You advertized a job and got no takers because the wages were low , so you'd up the wages until you got someone but now they don't need to do this.
 
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