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Yeah funny last night, all this talk of cheats and first server we joined had at the very least 3 of them........

- 1 guy, the whole server was complaining about and he got me a couple of times which just didn't feel right
- another guy one shotted both me and ramarri with the UMP, at the same time..... literally an insta death
- guy on our team using a cheat too, was 34-1 within 10 min where as everyone else had barely reached 10 kills

And they were all beginner noobs too.........

Few others that were a bit suspicious.

Think someone was even complaining about one of the ocuk guys cheating, jamor iirc lol.



Rroff would have had a field day :D :p
 
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yep think that must have been a super dodgy server mate, something was just not right. There were 2 blatant aimbotters in that 1 game alone, 1 on each side. Maybe the server doesnt have PB or the other cheat protection program. Who knows, I still had fun raping, kills galore in the MAA on BangANan Dam, so much fun to jump in that thing every now and again, especially if you can get a high position on the map. That thing just tears through infantry with the 30mms
 
played some silk road with some buddies last night and I got a hackusation :p wasn't even doing that good :p ok our team won and I think I was top.....but my k/d was only like 35/21, top of their team was something like 41/10. Think he was butthurt as I was gunner on a tank for a good while and we were just taking out everything from the hill xD got a few LBs with the MG ;)

I don't know if it's just in my head but I swear in game I'm waiting for the server updates while killing people. on peaks I was pushing on the D (no homo....lol :p ) with the AWS and round the corner...boom! like 5 guys with their backs turned about 8ft from me.... so I spray and prey....... one guy died and the rest were barely unaffected :\ it's like I was looking at their health bars and just watching them stay full.... even though I must have put about at least 20-30 bullets into the group as they did take a few moments to turn towards me. they all should have been dead :\


was going to jump on with you lot for a round but luckily I managed to alt-f4 in time on the loading menu when I saw you were all in lockers :p

and TBL..... lol that gif xD
 
86JR said:
As for my opinion, I don't think there are too many hackers, it is netcode.

For some reason I am plagued with bad netcode I really should do a 10min video because for example I can flank people on lockers, run up to them empty a whole mag into their back, they turn around and one shot me, and it says they have 100% health. This happens about 70% of every game I play.

But on their screen they are facing me and have already shot me. (they happened to be recording too, totally different perspective).

Yet if I go and play on an Aussie server with a 300 ping I can get 50 kills and 0 deaths on Zavod, because the perspective is switched; I kill them before they know they are being shot at, and I get all the hackusations thrown at ME.

It is something to do with ping, my ping is around 10 on UK and EU servers. Infact everyone I know with a low ping has these issues. I had far better hitreg on 2mbit adsl than I do on 50mbit fibre!
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The issue here is that if your ping is dramatically better your opponents, then you are going to be ahead of them in the timeline.

You've come round the corner and are running towards them on your timeline, but on their timeline you've not come round the corner yet, because they are behind.

They see you come round the corner, shoot you and you die. This information gets sent to the server - then sent onto you, which reaches you after you've spent seconds shooting at them wondering why nothing is happening.

The issue here is obviously to do with the way BF makes decisions about who has shot first. Its why you see so many trade kills in BF4. The game can't make its mind up who shot first so both die.

Hopefully the changes being tested in CTE changes all that.
 
be good if we just had ping limits on servers too. the number of times I check a guys ping after i've died and it's atleast 3x mine (mine usually being 10-30) or even in multiple hundreds!!! just **** off!!!! got play on a more local server, get better internet, or make servers for those which have no choice but to have a **** ping :p
 
Sasso said:
be good if we just had ping limits on servers too. the number of times I check a guys ping after i've died and it's atleast 3x mine (mine usually being 10-30) or even in multiple hundreds!!! just **** off!!!! got play on a more local server, get better internet, or make servers for those which have no choice but to have a **** ping :p
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10-30ms ping is in the upper brackets of good ping. Anything up to ~60 is acceptable and anything 100+ is poor.
 
Lol at the last page. I missed all the fun it seems. :D


As the NDA for the CTE has been fixed at last....

PATCH DAY
Today we will patch both server and client on the CTE for the fourth time! This will mean some server downtime. You will also have to update your CTE client in Origin to join servers once they are up again.



PATCH CONTENTS
This patch includes:

Added netcode high frequency kill switches to disable feature if server performance goes below a certain limit
Changed the way FOV slider option works – the UI now correctly displays vertical FOV
Improved the Uniform Soldier aiming based on CTE player feedback
Added Jet 3P rear view camera
Implemented FOV slider for vehicle 3P chase camera (option)
Potential fix for Hardcore killcard not showing up properly
Visual fix for weapon sticking out of ragdoll and rotating wierdly
Save file location has been separated from BF4 folder
Previous loadouts are now reset – you will have to set them up on the CTE again. The setting used on the CTE will not overwrite the retail game settings anymore.
Obliteration Competitive fixes
Fixed an issue where on some maps players would be invulnerable, tweaked some map layouts, and now the round won’t end if a bomb is planted and time has expired.


WHAT ARE WE TESTING?
This update focuses on the found issues from the spot-testing of the Obliteration Competitive mode. We need to make sure the fixes are adressing the issues found by you guys – and that normal Obliteration works as it is supposed to. We are setting up servers to run Obliteration (regular) as well as the Obliteration Competitive.
We are also testing some performance on our old favorite Hainan Resort – I urge you all to
fill that server so we get the best performance data we can get!

WHAT ABOUT NEW SERVERS?
We are getting new servers this week hopefully! We will bolster the EU server-pool, adding servers for US East, Australia, Asia and South America. We’ll keep you updated once the servers start coming online. Thanks for your patience!
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Sasso said:
be good if we just had ping limits on servers too. the number of times I check a guys ping after i've died and it's atleast 3x mine (mine usually being 10-30) or even in multiple hundreds!!! just **** off!!!! got play on a more local server, get better internet, or make servers for those which have no choice but to have a **** ping :p
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I'm getting a bit confused on this ping issue.
If you have a high number ping, surely that means you are disadvantaged due to the speed of information between your computer and the game server being slower than a low number ping? I play on a North American server, 64 player conquest large, with a 130 ping. Most other people are natives in the 40-50 mark and no one complains at me, but neither does it feel like my game lags either. :confused:
 
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pestt said:
I'm getting a bit confused on this ping issue.
If you have a high number ping, surely that means you are disadvantaged due to the speed of information between your computer and the game server being slower than a low number ping? I play on a North American server, 64 player conquest large, with a 130 ping. Most other people are natives in the 40-50 mark and no one complains at me, but neither does it feel like my game lags either. :confused:
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thats exactly why games have lag compensation, to stop the low ping players always coming off best due to the fact they sent the information first.

This is how you end up with that horrible scenario where you are shooting and nothing is happening, because you are drastically ahead of the person you are shooting at so because your time is ahead of his, the server won't register the hits until their timeline has caught up and they've been compared.
 
My view on cheathunters, you must be 100% totally infallible in your cheat detecting skills. If you admit to being ANYTHING less than 100%, then you should keep your accusations entirely between you and your phlegm covered monitor. Tarnisihing the reputation of any player should not be taken likely under any circumstances. Having said that, I do love a good outing as much as the next man, but it HAS to be done with incontrovertible evidence such as screengrab showing chameleon skins or whatever it is they use, not video of of someone having a purple patch, I don't care how experienced you say you are.
 
Bubo said:
My view on cheathunters, you must be 100% totally infallible in your cheat detecting skills. If you admit to being ANYTHING less than 100%, then you should keep your accusations entirely between you and your phlegm covered monitor. Tarnisihing the reputation of any player should not be taken likely under any circumstances. Having said that, I do love a good outing as much as the next man, but it HAS to be done with incontrovertible evidence such as screengrab showing chameleon skins or whatever it is they use, not video of of someone having a purple patch, I don't care how experienced you say you are.
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Hence why on my channel you only see videos where its indisputable i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6HBGYtav0E (the old spectator mode where the triangles were always drawn made it a lot easier to know when someone likely was cheating) and why most of my videos like the last one I have posted have identification information blacked out (the rest are private and reported to i.e. EA or whoever).

The rest was words wndsr and other put in my mouth then took the mick out of when I never claimed any such thing.

The other video was a bit of a rash act making it public (though I have enough instances of similiar stuff ocurring as per the 2nd example that the chances they aren't cheating are tiny - sure I might have got one of those wrong though I'm undecided on that as there was a person exactly behind where they were shooting even though it might have been coincidence in that particular case) - fact is though after cheating tapered post the PB ban wave about a month ago, around 3-4 days ago or so there was a wave of new cheaters surfacing which I guess is due to a new cheat being released or an update to an existing cheat to prevent it being detected by the latest version of PB - its not something I claimed lightly based on 1-2 players doing well or happening to kill me a lot or people getting good scores or something which are ridiculous metrics to try and judge cheating on.

EDIT: What some people won't understand is that I've enough experience to see things that someone without much experience of watching legit and confirmed cheating players won't like the correlation between how a legit player fine tunes their aim as much with their mouse as with tiny strafe movements in the appropriate situation and how thats different with a player who is relying on their aimbot to do some or all of the aiming and other things like the tiny signature of a low fov aimbot swapping from the intended target to another unintended target when 2 or more players come close together on screen - none of which on its own is proof of cheating but you learn to know when its highly likely an indication of cheating and when it isn't and from watching those players you can sometimes find instances where they screw up and give themselves away i.e. sometimes they become impatient due to dying a few times in a row and go on a full snapping to head spree to get their score up before going back to just using the cheat as an assist.
 
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Rroff said:
Hence why on my channel you only see videos where its indisputable i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6HBGYtav0E (the old spectator mode where the triangles were always drawn made it a lot easier to know when someone likely was cheating) and why most of my videos like the last one I have posted have identification information blacked out (the rest are private and reported to i.e. EA or whoever).

The rest was words wndsr and other put in my mouth then took the mick out of when I never claimed any such thing.

The other video was a bit of a rash act making it public (though I have enough instances of similiar stuff ocurring as per the 2nd example that the chances they aren't cheating are tiny - sure I might have got one of those wrong though I'm undecided on that as there was a person exactly behind where they were shooting even though it might have been coincidence in that particular case) - fact is though after cheating tapered post the PB ban wave about a month ago, around 3-4 days ago or so there was a wave of new cheaters surfacing which I guess is due to a new cheat being released or an update to an existing cheat to prevent it being detected by the latest version of PB - its not something I claimed lightly based on 1-2 players doing well or happening to kill me a lot or people getting good scores or something which are ridiculous metrics to try and judge cheating on.

EDIT: What some people won't understand is that I've enough experience to see things that someone without much experience of watching legit and confirmed cheating players won't like the correlation between how a legit player fine tunes their aim as much with their mouse as with tiny strafe movements in the appropriate situation and how thats different with a player who is relying on their aimbot to do some or all of the aiming and other things like the tiny signature of a low fov aimbot swapping from the intended target to another unintended target when 2 or more players come close together on screen - none of which on its own is proof of cheating but you learn to know when its highly likely an indication of cheating and when it isn't and from watching those players you can sometimes find instances where they screw up and give themselves away i.e. sometimes they become impatient due to dying a few times in a row and go on a full snapping to head spree to get their score up before going back to just using the cheat as an assist.
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You've got way too much time on your hands, pal.
 
V_R said:
Lol at the last page. I missed all the fun it seems. :D


As the NDA for the CTE has been fixed at last....

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Hopefully there'll be a few uk based servers, the current choice of usa and holland isnt great tbh, unless you get lucky and pick a decen dutch one. When this happens, it makes for a great experience.
 
Rroff said:
Hence why on my channel you only see videos where its indisputable i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6HBGYtav0E (the old spectator mode where the triangles were always drawn made it a lot easier to know when someone likely was cheating) and why most of my videos like the last one I have posted have identification information blacked out (the rest are private and reported to i.e. EA or whoever).

The rest was words wndsr and other put in my mouth then took the mick out of when I never claimed any such thing.

The other video was a bit of a rash act making it public (though I have enough instances of similiar stuff ocurring as per the 2nd example that the chances they aren't cheating are tiny - sure I might have got one of those wrong though I'm undecided on that as there was a person exactly behind where they were shooting even though it might have been coincidence in that particular case) - fact is though after cheating tapered post the PB ban wave about a month ago, around 3-4 days ago or so there was a wave of new cheaters surfacing which I guess is due to a new cheat being released or an update to an existing cheat to prevent it being detected by the latest version of PB - its not something I claimed lightly based on 1-2 players doing well or happening to kill me a lot or people getting good scores or something which are ridiculous metrics to try and judge cheating on.

EDIT: What some people won't understand is that I've enough experience to see things that someone without much experience of watching legit and confirmed cheating players won't like the correlation between how a legit player fine tunes their aim as much with their mouse as with tiny strafe movements in the appropriate situation and how thats different with a player who is relying on their aimbot to do some or all of the aiming and other things like the tiny signature of a low fov aimbot swapping from the intended target to another unintended target when 2 or more players come close together on screen - none of which on its own is proof of cheating but you learn to know when its highly likely an indication of cheating and when it isn't and from watching those players you can sometimes find instances where they screw up and give themselves away i.e. sometimes they become impatient due to dying a few times in a row and go on a full snapping to head spree to get their score up before going back to just using the cheat as an assist.
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Dude give it up. You're just making yourself look worse.
 
Ramarri said:
ive played on a really high level for 5 years ive won more things then mr fatality can dream off.
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Ramarri said:
I can honestly say 99% of all FPS players are clean.
But the world needs whiney tards like you and the world needs people like me to get you of ur high horse mr human cheat detector, UR FULL OF IT
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This made me LOL - No one cares about 5 years of 'competitive experience'. For all we know you could be one of the cheaters that Rroff is moaning about.

This is a battlefield forum folks - what's the big deal with someone posting his thoughts about cheating? It's clearly part of the game and anyone who thinks that <=1% of players cheat is clearly ignorant.

Did you guys jump on TS and decide that you would go one some sort of witch hunt cause there seems to be allot of fiery responses to Rroff's posts?
 
1kiwi said:
This made me LOL - No one cares about 5 years of 'competitive experience'. For all we know you could be one of the cheaters that Rroff is moaning about.

This is a battlefield forum folks - what's the big deal with someone posting his thoughts about cheating? It's clearly part of the game and anyone who thinks that <=1% of players cheat is clearly ignorant.

Did you guys jump on TS and decide that you would go one some sort of witch hunt cause there seems to be allot of fiery responses to Rroff's posts?
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I can kind of understand it in some ways - you get a lot of kiddies banding hackusations around just because they don't understand the implications of a loadout or because they don't have enough experience to know what a good player actually looks like aim, tracking, prediction/ability to read the game, etc. wise - as you can see from the nature of their posts they seem to think thats me.

EDIT: Given the nature of the replies its quite likely a certain amount of collaboration has gone on.
 
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1kiwi said:
Did you guys jump on TS and decide that you would go one some sort of witch hunt cause there seems to be allot of fiery responses to Rroff's posts?
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Rroff has by his own admission posted videos that were "tangible" at best towards people cheating, people clearly have found issue with that.

As for a "TS witch hunt" tbh we have better things to talk about in the evenings.
 
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