"Wanted Thread" Samsung LCD TV Issues.

spike2011 said:
I keep my TV in stand by mode most of the time will be buying a Sony Lcd next time for sure.
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I would steer clear of Sony for sure. They are not what they once were.
If you wish to move to any other manufacturers you would do well to pick anyone else but Sony.
They still trade on a premium brand image they gained about a decade ago, however they are far from premium nowerdays.
 
Malt_Vinegar said:
I would steer clear of Sony for sure. They are not what they once were.
If you wish to move to any other manufacturers you would do well to pick anyone else but Sony.
They still trade on a premium brand image they gained about a decade ago, however they are far from premium nowerdays.
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lol wut?

you don't know what your talking about clearly.

this was the case up until 2-3 years ago when they took the TV market by storm by their new LCD panels.

for the past 2 years Sony have been the best gaming TV's you can buy with the lowest of all input lag.

they have also scored highly throughout the past 10 years in the tv market but they were never on top until 2 years ago.

Sony > all at the moment but that could change as it usually does.

Fujitsu were on top for a while then pioneer were then panasonic were (all with plasma sets) since plasma is now EOL Sony are now on top with their LCD's

Currently as it stands if you can find a panasonic plasma buy one, otherwise go for sony.

From sets which are readily available in the LCD market the standings are currently

Sony > Panasonic = Samsung > LG > all


If you want the best though it's currently OLED but be prepared to sell a kidney to buy one of them that is why I won't bother going into them for 99% of people the best option is Sony.

I suggest you go to avforums and do some recent research.


Also sony currently have the best studio and reference quality headphones on the market the Sony MDR-7506.

They also have sold a lot more current consoles than their rivals so they are on top of a lot of markets tbh. Yes they are struggling in some but they are now streamlining their business.
 
Have been reading a lot of threads in the Avforums for some research on TVs have not looked at buying new one for over 5 years its all smart 3D tvs now LCD displays still have there problems but are good value the Sony KDL46W905A 46 inch with make a good gaming tv for my PS4.
 
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If you don't fix this issue soon, it can corrupt the NVM on the mainboard, which then requires a new NVM I.C which if you take to someone who knows what they're talking about, will cost a lot more in repair fee's.
 
Im not going to get my Samsung fixed its going to land fill could sell it cheap cant be bothered really will just buy a new one lol.

An I dont trust local repair shops they rip you off big time.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
you don't know what your talking about clearly.
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I managed to miss this response. Not wanting to get into a full blown discussion on Sony's failings, I will elaborate a little on my opinions to clarify why I suggest buying Sony is not a great idea, now, or going into the future (with some caveats) :)

Sony is a company in decline, loss making for 5-6 years now, spinning off and selling unprofitable parts of the company, including the TV business, which is also loss making.

They are halting OLED development, dumping staff, falling behind on tech, and I would imagine they are considering a sell off. Although they will deny it at all costs to protect the value of the newly spun off division before they do it.

I don't even know who is making Sony panels now, that information seems quite hard to come by since they sold out their share in S-LCD. So I am thinking it must be a combination of LG and Sharp. So they are not really in control of their own panel development.

Sure, they might make some great headline products, but it's not going to last if they remain unprofitable. And how long do you think they will be able to keep it up once the TV division is sold? Sony are even contracting small panel manufacturing out to other companies completely, essentially just branding other companies whole products.

If you are buying a mega-sized 4k monster, or a specialist display it will probably be a very good product, but come down the range and its not the same story. :)
 
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Probably the capacitors on the power PCB. I had a Samsung monitor eventually die starting with the same symptoms initially and then just refused to turn on altogether.

Ripped it open and replaced the capacitors on the power board with some decent ones and it works good as new now. The crappy brand old ones were visibly deformed. Cheaper option than buying a new board if you're handy with a soldering iron!
 
My 4 year old Samsung 32" tv has developed this fault. Had a look at the boards and didn't see any obvious bulging capacitors. Best to give Samsung a ring and try your luck. I've seen a fair few people selling the bits of my tv on ebay - I guess by now its worth more in parts than the whole!

Part of me wants it to break completely so I can justify buying the shiny new tv I have my eyes on!
 
Malt_Vinegar said:
If you are buying a mega-sized 4k monster, or a specialist display it will probably be a very good product, but come down the range and its not the same story. :)
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reviews on HDTVTEST and AVFORUMS would disagree, even their £500 priced sets have been reviewed well and come "HIGHLY RECOMMENDED" and the ones to beat for gaming especially.

who cares if the company itself is bleeding money, so long as the product your buying is the best in it's price range.

lets say BMW are going bust and they decide to sell M3's for £10, would you say, stop don't buy that M3, BMW are in trouble, I wouldn't touch their products with a bargepole because they will be sold off to VW or Ford very soon.

No getting an M3 for a tenner would be a ridiculous bargain and everyone and their gran would jump on it.

The state of the corporation as a whole has nothing to do with the quality of their TV's all of them are very good and currently it is the company to buy from.

Who cares if they go bust, if you buy from a decent reputable retailer like John Lewis you will be covered by any faults within the first 5 years of its ownership.

Should sony stop manufacturing TV's and therefore a direct replacement not be available, John Lewis will try and find a like for like replacement if they cannot they usually "upgrade" you for free.

Therefore I see no reason not to buy sony, in fact your a fool if you don't because currently they are the TV kings.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
reviews on HDTVTEST and AVFORUMS would disagree, even their £500 priced sets have been reviewed well and come "HIGHLY RECOMMENDED" and the ones to beat for gaming especially.

who cares if the company itself is bleeding money, so long as the product your buying is the best in it's price range.

lets say BMW are going bust and they decide to sell M3's for £10, would you say, stop don't buy that M3, BMW are in trouble, I wouldn't touch their products with a bargepole because they will be sold off to VW or Ford very soon.

No getting an M3 for a tenner would be a ridiculous bargain and everyone and their gran would jump on it.

The state of the corporation as a whole has nothing to do with the quality of their TV's all of them are very good and currently it is the company to buy from.

Who cares if they go bust, if you buy from a decent reputable retailer like John Lewis you will be covered by any faults within the first 5 years of its ownership.

Should sony stop manufacturing TV's and therefore a direct replacement not be available, John Lewis will try and find a like for like replacement if they cannot they usually "upgrade" you for free.

Therefore I see no reason not to buy sony, in fact your a fool if you don't because currently they are the TV kings.
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The BMW analogy does not work as you mentioned it. A more accurate analogy would be..
BMW are losing a load of money are being spun off and most likely sold, probably to a Chinese company. Now, do you want to buy a full price BMW, or similar a full price Audi?

Or, what if you are an (enlightened) plasma fan, or fancy an OLED TV, or a Curved Panel for that matter? Sony cannot cater for you. Oh, and what if you want an future proof panel (which lets face it, you do if you are buying a 4k TV now!) that can be upgraded with a kit at a later date, Sony will not cater for you either. I'm sure there a few use cases where a particular Sony will shine. That I don't doubt.

However, I think this is where you and I shall have to agree to disagree, and I guess you will be calling me a fool :) That will be my last post on the matter, as it's beginning to feel a lot like I am at work!?
 
Plasma is dead (I own 2 flagship plasma panels) so it's not an option for a new buyer.

OLED is also the cost of a cheap car.

LCD is currently the best option for most and Sony currently make the best LCD's.

If you can afford to spend £2K+ then by all means buy OLED as it is the best you can buy for PQ.
 
Leaving the Sony discussion behind...Plasma is still the best for TV. Its such a shame it's being killed off. I will be replacing my plasma with a newer larger (probably panasonic) plasma in a couple of years when I can grab a flagship model nice and cheap, unless OLED has dropped in price sufficiently.
I can get some pretty good prices for new plasma right now. 51 inch Series 4 Samsung for £328 or 55inch UHD 7 series for less than £1100 :D
 
What model you hoping to pick up for cheap? I'm also assuming second hand?

VT65 or ZT65? I doubt many people would be willing to sell theirs so quick tbh especially since they paid like £2K+ for them
 
Sony for reference are using mostly AUO panels from what I've seen at work.

S-LCD was 51% share to Samsung and 49% to Sony. Sony sold off their share a couple of years back to Samsung.

What sector do you work in Malt? Do you repair?
 
Do you know Mike Walters? He used to do the training courses for Samsung. I believe an LG TLO named Hugh Lobo moved to Samsung too, know him?
 
gumpy321 said:
Do you know Mike Walters? He used to do the training courses for Samsung. I believe an LG TLO named Hugh Lobo moved to Samsung too, know him?
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I don't know them personally, I think Hugh works with AV products in the UK subsiduary though. So our paths would not cross, I work for EU HQ. Samsung is quite a large company, with many divisions! I am not usually involved in anything consumer product based.
 
Just a friendly bump relating to the third party who seems to be manufacturing "Sony" TV's at the moment. I opened up a KDL-32R423 and found that it was Foxconn who manufactured the PSU and A-Board. Che Mei was the panel manufacturer.
 
gumpy321 said:
Just a friendly bump relating to the third party who seems to be manufacturing "Sony" TV's at the moment. I opened up a KDL-32R423 and found that it was Foxconn who manufactured the PSU and A-Board. Che Mei was the panel manufacturer.
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That's no big surprise really. Sony has been out of direct manufacturing for some time, opting instead for design & marketing. Hell, even Samsung shop around for panels for some of their own TVs.

Coming back to the original issue. It's worth looking at replacing just the capacitors as a first try instead of boards. I've rescued a few sets in that way. It gives one the option of fitting an uprated component. Go for a 105 deg C rated part of the same voltage value. The Capacitance value can be the same or higher, but must not be lower.

Bad caps has been an industry problem now for quite a while. The TV industry really only has itself to blame though. They're the ones driving down prices and killing profits. So opting for the lowest cost parts suppliers plus the effect of globalisation means that they're all in the same sinking boat. Stupid really; it's not like TVs are a niche product or a difficult concept to sell.
 
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