Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?

[Mr Jack]

what ukip need is its own media organisation like labour have with the bbc.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That's one of the most laughably ignorant things I've ever heard. I feel dumber for having read it.

UKip should create their own state run media organisation and then they can also run with bias news like labour does with the bbc.

The BBC is not state-run media, it's not even state media, it's publicly funded. These are radically different concepts and your failure to grasp it rather disqualifies you from having a worthwhile opinion on the matter.

 

[elmarko]

Have to say, it's pretty impressive how well UKIP have done given how biased against them the mainstream media is. Imagine how well they would have done if they media wasn't biased!?

I do agree the media is biased, of course they are - it's a business.

The fact is around 90% of small business do not want to leave the EU & that sentiment from what I've read seems to be shared across larger corporations.

I predict the following over the next few years.

1. New leadership for Labour.
2. A number of newspapers get behind Labour.
3. Labour win the next election.
4. UKIP is forgotten.
5. Papers turn on Labour & return to the pro-conservative stance.
6. Conservatives get in at the following election.

Why?, because I believe business would rather deal with a Labour government expanding welfare than a UKIP one destroying the economy & disrupting trade within the EU.

What would be interesting is if some Conservative voters decide a tactical vote for Labour to keep out UKIP would be preferable (this could seal the fact of UKIP in the next election).

Greens will be considered too much of a risk to vote for & mostly ignored - Lib-dems will be further marginalised.

 

[RDM]

I'm not sure why the media is focusing on UKIP, Labour has made far more gains & has ten times the number of seats.

240 VS 138 gains is a huge difference, the swing towards Labour from disenfranchised Liberal Democrat voters is far more significant politically.

Possibly because of the percentage gains. UKIP have gone from having a few to over a hundred in one election. The Labour gains are less than expected and not where they need them for the general election.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

You're assuming that the EU will plod along as normal. If the French economy continues to stagnate, it's possible they could withdraw from the Euro. Then who knows what will happen?

 

[elmarko]

Possibly because of the percentage gains. UKIP have gone from having a few to over a hundred in one election. The Labour gains are less than expected and not where they need them for the general election.

Indeed, but the vote is spread - the typical UKIP voter isn't centralised enough within any one area to make a significant impact from what I can see.

If the other parties are able to even partially mobilise the youth vote they will get steam-rolled in the next election, popularism tends to have a short life-span so I don't expect them to be around long.

 

[RoboCod]

I'm not sure why the media is focusing on UKIP, Labour has made far more gains & has ten times the number of seats.

240 VS 138 gains is a huge difference, the swing towards Labour from disenfranchised Liberal Democrat voters is far more significant politically.

But I thought it was going to be a land slide for UKIP and "protecting the British way of life"....

 

[elmarko]

But I thought it was going to be a land slide for UKIP and "protecting the British way of life"....

Yeah.

Unless they think holding 4.42% of the total number of seat is a landslide....

 

[Schlong&Stable]

But I thought it was going to be a land slide for UKIP and "protecting the British way of life"....

I think you're confused. No one said there would be a land slide in the local elections.

It could be worse though, they could be GRN.

 

[Westyfield2]

I predict the following over the next few years.

1. New leadership for Labour.
2. A number of newspapers get behind Labour.

Labour really need to ditch Ed Milliband. Yes the Unions chose him etc, but he's seriously a disaster.

 

[RoboCod]

I think you're confused. No one said there would be a land slide in the local elections.

It could be worse though, they could be GRN.

I'm not sure about that, I'll dig up some of the "not long now " smug remarks by douche and a few others. It always read like they actually thought UKIP would be more than half the votes or something? ROFLFRINGEPARTY

 

[Burnsy2023]

You're assuming that the EU will plod along as normal. If the French economy continues to stagnate, it's possible they could withdraw from the Euro. Then who knows what will happen?

I don't know where you've got that from, but that seems a pretty remote scenario, I mean that's up there with Angela Merkel dressing up as a Teletubby.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Labour really need to ditch Ed Milliband. Yes the Unions chose him etc, but he's seriously a disaster.

I don't disagree with you there. If David got the leadership, I think Labour would have been in a much stronger position.

 

[elmarko]

Labour really need to ditch Ed Milliband. Yes the Unions chose him etc, but he's seriously a disaster.

They will need a new leader to do the predictable jerk to the right (closer to the centre from the centre left rhetoric they are currently speaking in).

Once that happens I believe business & therefore the popular media will feel comfortable backing them - the public will be blaming the Conservatives for the slow economic recovery (even thought it was related to the global financial crisis) - just as they did for Labour & will be open to influence.

It's a guess, but I'd put money on it.

What I'd like to know is would some current Conservative voters be comfortable voting Labour if they did shift a little to the right & replace the leader (to reduce the chances of a harmful referendum to the UK economically speaking & sure-fire way of denying UKIP any traction). With the long term intention of return to the Conservatives once the dust settles.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

I don't know where you've got that from, but that seems a pretty remote scenario, I mean that's up there with Angela Merkel dressing up as a Teletubby.

Not at all. There has been a swing towards Euroscepticism throughout Europe. France's economy in particular is stagnating at the moment and recent gains by the FN reflect this.

If come Monday we see substantial numbers of Euro-sceptics returned across Western Europe, it might very well signal a threat to the EU.

See: http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/05/12/swing-eurosceptic-right/

 

[Burnsy2023]

Not at all. There has been a swing towards Euroscepticism throughout Europe. France's economy in particular is stagnating at the moment and recent gains by the FN reflect this.

If come Monday we see substantial numbers of Euro-sceptics returned across Western Europe, it might very well signal a threat to the EU.

It's one thing saying France will elect more eurosceptic officials and that their economy is stagnating, it's another to suggest they'll pull out of the Euro. That is a massive change that I can't see happening currently.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

It's one thing saying France will elect more eurosceptic officials and that their economy is stagnating, it's another to suggest they'll pull out of the Euro. That is a massive change that I can't see happening currently.

Many commentators argue that it's the Euro that is holding them back, breaking from the Euro would be the best move for the French economy.

 

[Gilly]

Have to say, it's pretty impressive how well UKIP have done given how biased against them the mainstream media is.

Everyone should be biased against them.

That said, I think the media have been pretty fair with UKIP. UKIP themselves can only blame their members for the stupid stories that have been run on them, given that they are factual.

Farage says there are plenty of "idiots" in his party. he is right:
John Sullivan thinks exercise stops the gay (and thinks the gays as termites, and hates feminism in all its forms)
Gordon Ferguson wants his opponents hanged for treason.
Farage is too tired to accept that he was wrong to point out the 'difference' between his German wife and a Romanian immigrant.
Farage then writes his 'I'm not racist, but...' letter.
Godfrey Bloom hates women.
Farage himself hates women, being branded a sexist dictator by one of his own, Marta Andreasen.

The only things have going for them are:

Protest voters not wanting to vote for a real party
Racist ex-Labour voters
People that could never bring themselves to vote for the BNP

Don't get me wrong, Farage is good at doing what he does, but that's a negative thing.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Many commentators argue that it's the Euro that is holding them back, breaking from the Euro would be the best move for the French economy.

No, no it wouldn't. It'd destabilize Europe, disrupt the markets and make French borrowing so much more expensive.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

No, no it wouldn't. It'd destabilize Europe, disrupt the markets and make French borrowing so much more expensive.

It would in the short term, yes. But this would be preferable to slow economic decline inside the Euro.

 

[Westyfield2]

John Sullivan thinks exercise stops the gay (and thinks the gays as termites, and hates feminism in all its forms)
Gordon Ferguson wants his opponents hanged for treason.
Farage is too tired to accept that he was wrong to point out the 'difference' between his German wife and a Romanian immigrant.
Farage then writes his 'I'm not racist, but...' letter.
Godfrey Bloom hates women.
Farage himself hates women, being branded a sexist dictator by one of his own, Marta Andreasen.

They're all bad things, and rightly should be covered in the media. But the stupid stuff that members of other parties say should also be covered in the media as well.