Show me where or get the **** out.
And being offended on behalf of your GF\someone else is the worst thing ever.
Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?
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Show me where or get the **** out.
And being offended on behalf of your GF\someone else is the worst thing ever.
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There are probably worse things than being offended on someone else's behalf.
My opinion hasn't changed on that, what I take umbrage with is you think that anyone who votes UKIP (that hasn't touched BNP with a bargepole) is also racist. And believe me, that's a vast majority here and everywhere in the country
Your fascism is utterly disgusting
>How do you know this though, you say it with such conviction?!
65% of the country didn't vote. ~15% (best estimate at the moment) of those that did vote voted for UKIP.
UKIP outperformed expectations and are being talked up a lot in the press but lets not pretend they represent any kind of majority.
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Do you I really need to quote the following from Churchill?
“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
CP, I was originally just talking about these forums, the poll at the top shows that you lot are a minority here. But lets take Turambar's numbers
That's still 2.5 million votes for UKIP
all secret BNP supporters (including me?) mmmmm hardly
That's still 2.5 million votes for UKIP
all secret BNP supporters (including me?) mmmmm hardly
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They dont represent any kind of majority, at the moment! Everyone has to start somewhere. Lets see what happens as the 'majority' of the people in the UK are sick and tired of how this country is run etc. Maybe, we do need a new party that has the balls to stand up for what the people of this country really want!
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No, objecting to the potential offence caused to someone you don't know is even worse.
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'You lot' includes all parties not Ukip. Even if we discount 'other', it is still 561 to
343. That is a minority.
So I hear this line a lot, but I've never discovered what exactly it is that the people of this country really want. Could you please enlighten me?
1. No immigrants at all unless they are Einstein, and to somehow send back all the ones who have settled here. Not sure if this includes students.
2. More jobs for English people, paying a higher salary so people can support a family of four on a single income and afford a house just like the good old days.
3. No handouts for scroungers at all so anyone who gets injured at work (because 'elf and safety is a bad thing for some reason) has to beg or starve.
4. A pony.
If this is the level of your debate then i'm done, you're beyond help
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A pony is not an unreasonable request.
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There is nothing wrong with the first two.
Coming from someone who thinks the UKIP view on things is in line with "the vast majority" of the country I am incredibly comfortable with you not agreeing with me.
I think the best definition of UKIP voters I've heard was said by (IIRC) a UKIP official (who is not named). The gist of it was: UKIP voters are people who have failed in life, and want someone to blame for it. This has always been a fertile recruiting area for extremist parties of all stamps, with the majority of members of such parties coming from lower-middle and working class backgrounds, doing low-skill and poorly paid jobs. They are convinced that something other than their own inadequacy is holding them back from a well-paid meaningful career and they have found a scapegoat. In time past it has been the underclass, Jews, Huguenots (yes, really), immigrants, and well, immigrants. Anyone but yourself. UKIP is just another round of this. Add a huge dash of old-fashioned (literally) conservatism (small c intended) and UKIP is just the latest bunch from a long line of narrow-minded bigotted Little Englanders.
However...
I do understand the frustration with the current politics and why people think "none of the above" should be a valid ballot option. Blair steered Labour away from poor people towards Tory Lite and support of Big Business. That leaves all the main three parties looking pretty much the same, with the feeling that no matter who you vote for you're going to get the same. Cameron is a Toff with no idea of real life, Glegg is a man who sold what little soul he has for power, and Milliband is so in hock to his spin doctors I simply have no idea what he wants or why. Politicians still haven't understood why the public have such contempt for them. So they just keep doing the same wrong thins and say that they are misunderstood. No, the problem is that we understand you very well, that's why we hate you.
That said, how a public-school educated stockbroker came to be seen as an "outsider" in all this is beyond me. It's even more mystifying that why people seem utterly unable to see through Boris Johnson's act.
However...
I do understand the frustration with the current politics and why people think "none of the above" should be a valid ballot option. Blair steered Labour away from poor people towards Tory Lite and support of Big Business. That leaves all the main three parties looking pretty much the same, with the feeling that no matter who you vote for you're going to get the same. Cameron is a Toff with no idea of real life, Glegg is a man who sold what little soul he has for power, and Milliband is so in hock to his spin doctors I simply have no idea what he wants or why. Politicians still haven't understood why the public have such contempt for them. So they just keep doing the same wrong thins and say that they are misunderstood. No, the problem is that we understand you very well, that's why we hate you.
That said, how a public-school educated stockbroker came to be seen as an "outsider" in all this is beyond me. It's even more mystifying that why people seem utterly unable to see through Boris Johnson's act.
Your post said "the vast majority of posters here, and everwhere else in the country"
Also if we want to really get into the semantics and talk about majorities (of this pointless forum poll alone), then the majority DID NOT vote UKIP, but for somebody else 
Or what he said....
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