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Face it bro, you haven't got a clue. You are just as thick as the idiots they wheel out on the BBC who 'vote' for UKIP.
Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?
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Right, so faced with locating in one country where they will have to obtain visas for a large amount of their staff, or another one where they don't, they'd continue to pick the UK?
You've convinced me, congratulations. Your well reasoned points have won me over.
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I said New Zealand has visa waivers for certain countries. Ergo we can travel there freely, but we can't get a job. You then claimed that it was the same as political union if France went for the same arrangement with the countries of their choice.
Except of course, that New Zealand has no political arrangements with Germany, or Greece, who they have visa waivers for.
You have a problem with reading, and are clearly slow/thick and/or trolling
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lol
so why doesn't all the American companies move to the EU?
You know how hard it is for Brit to get a work visa in America?
The only thing that might put companies off is taxes which is nothing to do with the EU
do you really think some global company gives a rats ass about whether it can hire Romanians or Bulgarians at minimum wage in the UK? you really think that's their prime reason for considering the UK?
crack pipe, snap it you've had enough
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I'm not sure what point you're making here. Tons of US companies have their European subsidiaries here to gain access to the European markets.
and that's that over. Ran out of troll material / lack of forethought
you mean the HQ's in switzerland and ireland to avoid UK taxes which is nothing to do with the bloody EU
you're trying to claim a billion dollar company wouldn't consider the UK because they can't hire unskilled EU workers that can't get a job in their own country ?
skilled workers have never had a problem coming to the UK and never will where as even a skilled worker struggles to move to america
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No, I mean have you ever walked around the City of London with your eyes open?
I'm not going to repeat myself, I've made it pretty clear what I mean in post 2763, which you quoted. If you can find time to read it in between boiling over with rage and stringing words together badly then I'm happy to continue the discussion.
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It's even been explained to your before what happens to price when you have a massive supply of something (labour) and little demand (small amount of jobs), and you still don't have the IQ to understand it
Oh, nasty, nasty interlocutor, with that whole side rib stabbing manner, but I'll entertain your rudeness anyway.
I have few simple terms for you, not too many words in each, so not very difficult to remember.
First term - Minimum (wait for it) wage. EU law that one. Sets the minimum amount of compensation an employee must receive for performing labor and attempts to protect employees from exploitation, allowing them to afford the basic necessities of life. Each country sets their minimum wage separately to reflect local economy. Ensures that when John and Janek bid for the same job, neither will gain advantage by offering to work for half the money and sleep with horses at the back.
Second term - Maximum (pause for effect) working hours. EU law that one too. Defines maximum length of labour, daily or weekly, to avoid hypothetical situation where employer takes advantage of labour market conditions to get more hours from fewer employees for minimal money. Ensures that when John and Janek bid for the same job, neither will gain advantage by offering to work twice the hours and not sleep at all.
Third term - Straw man. Also known in some regions as Aunt Sally. Completely non EU related that one. An informal fallacy based on the misrepresentation of the topic at hand. To be successful, a straw man argument requires one side to be ignorant and/or uninformed of the original topic or argument. It is what you are trying to exercise here, noble sir.
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It appears he did
Sorry, i should make it clear. I mean you are very poor at debating.
we never had a minimum wage before the EU? will I never knew that
The National Minimum Wage Act 1998 creates a minimum wage across the United Kingdom, currently £6.31 per hour for workers aged 21 years and older, £5.03 per hour for workers aged 18–20.[1] It was a flagship policy of the Labour Party in the UK during its 1997 election campaign and is still pronounced today in Labour Party circulars as an outstanding gain for ‘at least 1.5 million people’. The national minimum wage (NMW) took effect on 1 April 1999.
like zero hour contracts? or mass immigration of unskilled workers
indeed
and this is the type of person claiming ukip voters are knuckle dragging racists with low IQ?!?!?!!?
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I wasn't aware putting staff on a zero hour contract ensured you could force them into 80 hour weeks for £20, please point me at this legislation so I can get busy exploiting people.
Or are you trying to say that because the EU doesn't fix everything that it's OK to ignore everything else that it's achieved?
Or are you trying to say that because the EU doesn't fix everything that it's OK to ignore everything else that it's achieved?
hypothetical situation where employer takes advantage of labour market conditions to get more hours from fewer employees for minimal money
don't even pretend to be so dense that you can't fathom why zero hour contract is the above.
we all know why they exist and it's because people on zero hour have less rights and it's cheaper to have multiple zero hour than one full time
which is what? minimum wage law? LOL or we can finally go on holiday to Europe which we could never do before.
people never moved to another country for work, before the EU people didn't even leave the town they were born in....
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Except it's not is it? At all. You can call me stupid all you like as though you're some sort of enlightened being and nobody else has woken up to reality yet, but a zero hours contract doesn't allow people to work for less than the minimum wage.
If you don't understand the fundamental differences between going somewhere on holiday and freedom of movement as it relates to employment then this isn't going to be very productive.
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but it allows the company to save money........... and exploit the poor
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