So I rented a 'Focus or similar'...

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You guys don't really care about the clock adjustment buttons and 7 segment displays... Do you? I really don't think it's bad at all, certainly has all the features you would want in a car of this type.

It was always going to be less comfy than a Z3, all that scuttle shake does count for something :p
 
You buy a GT86 for the way it drives/handles, not refinement and build quality. If the latter is important, look for something else?
 
The gearbox is a big issue with the car, Toyota techs have no idea how to adjust them to get them into a sweet spot. I had mine replaced due to issues with 2nd with one of their demo units. 80's clock is fantastic, very easy to read which is what I want from a clock.

The problem with the car is the price, in US/Asia it's very competitively priced but over here going through Toyota EU it's too much compared to the competition. I can't wait to get mine out onto a track though.
 
I don't have a clock in my mx5, does this concern me....not a jot. I wear a watch most of the time, if I'm not I'll be going on the sort of trip where time doesn't really matter. The clock in the gt86 serves a purpose, ig its the sort of thing that bothers you then a car like this is clearly not your thing.
 
You guys do realise I was joking about the clock thing?

Anyway, a slight adjustment and it'd have looked much better - simply by changing those buttons a bit it would be much less nineties.
 
Not really a car for doing 1000miles in 24hrs. It's made for B roads and driving.

OBC crap, soft plastics etc aren't needed for its design brief. The brief was to make a car that wants to be driven.

Wrong tool for the job here
 
It's possibly a fair review, I don't know I've never driven one.

But as the old saying goes, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.

I'm dying to test drive one to go out and play around on some nice roads, i wouldn't pick it to cruise the autobahns or impress a bird off Made in Chelsea (not that you'd want to do that anyway).
 
Obviously not but thats not the point either? One could go out and spend even more than that and buy a lotus exige, ultima gtr or some kind of noble and they'd all have crap clocks too....obviously this would be an issue to a car buyer like yourself Fox, given your preferences for refinement, toys and quality materials, but for others it would be completely immaterial.
 
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Will said:
Obviously not but thats not the point either?
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It is really - generally people at different price-points have different expectations and tolerances.

People buying new cars are not the same as those who enthuse over used ones years later.
 
I don't dispute that people sometimes have higher expectations based on price - but equally there are also those out there that prioritise the way something drives over design details like the design or even the existence of a clock.. Such people aren't just those with limited budgets either, else we wouldn't have the cars like those that I mentioned before.
 
MilanoChris said:
You buy a GT86 for the way it drives/handles, not refinement and build quality. If the latter is important, look for something else?
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Someone buying a car looks at the whole package. Some people might be able to overlook a naff interior or lack of refinement, but it's always going to be very much a niche. For mass market appeal they need to get the whole package right, or, make it exceptionally cheap.
 
[TW]Fox;26419694 said:
That thing looks properly nasty inside, like something from about 1999. Infact whilst I am sure they are quite different inside it keeps reminding me of the FTO. The clock is particularly amazing. Just... wow.
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You think that's bad, the Mini looks like a modernized version of an interior from the 1960's!

Seriously, your a smart dude, you know full well the point of the car (throwback to the late 80's/early 90's Jap road racers) and it's target audience (who will like the interior).

Personally I can also see the FTO/Prelude/Supra styling going on in there except I like it, it's also great to see a new car with a double din radio/satnav instead of it being integrated into the dash, that way in 10 years when it's useless it can be changed easily and cheaply.


[TW]Fox;26424641 said:
It's hardly been a sales success though...
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O.o

It outsold the Supra in <2 months, it was never going to do Focus numbers but it is doing Celica/Prelude/200SX numbers and they were quite a common sight in their day.
 
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MilanoChris said:
You buy a GT86 for the way it drives/handles, not refinement and build quality. If the latter is important, look for something else?
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Simon said:
Not really a car for doing 1000miles in 24hrs. It's made for B roads and driving.

OBC crap, soft plastics etc aren't needed for its design brief. The brief was to make a car that wants to be driven.

Wrong tool for the job here
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This tbh.

Interesting that it isn't the most stable at high speed though.

I love the GT86 but as the hype has worn off and now it is getting on for 2 years since release, I'm begining to see people painting a "truer" picture of the car other than "OMG its a RWD toyota".
 
NathWraith said:
This tbh.

Interesting that it isn't the most stable at high speed though.

I love the GT86 but as the hype has worn off and now it is getting on for 2 years since release, I'm begining to see people painting a "truer" picture of the car other than "OMG its a RWD toyota".
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Its a newer S2000 with less power and skinnier tyres to make up for it. Also the roof is stuck closed.
 
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