It seems el vino did flow for Gregorio tonight...
He's feeling frisky.
Very much so bud. Football team reunion
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TSMC Begins 20nm Volume Production Finally – Next Gen GPUs At This Node Are Now A Possibility
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Very much so bud. Football team reunion
It's a possibility that NVIDIA may have a TSMC 20nm range of cards in 2015, but 2014 - no way.
There's absolutely no chance of any TSMC 20nm AMD GPUs:
1) They've excplicitly stated that for the rest of 2014 it'll be 28nm only.
2) All their forthcoming GPUs will be on GlobalFoundries 28nm (then smaller nodes). Current AMD cards will be the last ones on TSMC for quite a while.
There's absolutely no chance of any TSMC 20nm AMD GPUs:
1) They've excplicitly stated that for the rest of 2014 it'll be 28nm only.
2) All their forthcoming GPUs will be on GlobalFoundries 28nm (then smaller nodes). Current AMD cards will be the last ones on TSMC for quite a while.
Next gen will be interesting. They cant release a gk104 type card in the £400 bracket like they did with the 680 if it wont be faster than a 780/780Ti as nobody is going to see it as a new and faster card ( ie no one would buy it)
I just cant see Nvidia releasing a new flagship card that is slower than a 780Ti. They could have course price it lower but then it isn't really next gen is it and it will just be another mid to high range card slotting into a price point somewhere.
I reckon therefore that an 880 will have to be faster than the 780 range.
I just cant see Nvidia releasing a new flagship card that is slower than a 780Ti. They could have course price it lower but then it isn't really next gen is it and it will just be another mid to high range card slotting into a price point somewhere.
I reckon therefore that an 880 will have to be faster than the 780 range.
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They also said that the 7970 would last out the year, then released the 290's in October/November anyway
They intended to, or at least have a mix of both TSMC / GF long ago ... however, node shrink delays, poor yields, poor capacity and high cost delayed it.
However, GF can now offer better yields, effectively unlimited capacity for AMD, highly competitive costs, GF's full attention for optimising the process for their GPUs (unlike TSMC having NVIDIA and numerous other big ticket customers), and apparently massively less leaky 28nm (therefore more power efficient).
Tonga's supposed to a lot more efficient, but with only minor tweaks to its design. If this transpires, it means GF's process is a lot better than TSMC's. This represents a major problem for NVIDIA, since they're not likely to climb into bed with the 'enemy' (GF).
AMD can't do 20nm this year. GF's isn't ready (nor is TSMC at any kind of reasonable price or volume), and they aren't using TSMC after their current crop of cards. So it's not a question of honesty.
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Do you work for one of these, or are you just regurgitating stuff wotyou read on tinterweb?
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AMD and Nvidia can only use global Foundries if GF have a service worth using.