Corsair Carbide 540 - Air Cooling Ideas Needed

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Hey guys.

I am looking for some advise on how to get the most cooling from my case using air only.

The case allows for;

Front 2 x 140mm or 3 x 120mm
Top 2 x 140mm or 120mm
Rear 1 x 140mm

What fans do you guys advise, what airflow direction.


Also, on a side note, what LED's work well as I don't like the idea of dull and bright patches on the window, so would I be best off with a Cold Cathode?
 
Front in
Top and rear out (hot air rises)

As for size of fan it really depends on noise. Larger fan size tends to be quieter and still able to make more flow rate of air.
 
My 540 setup:

front- 3x Akasa Viper 120mm intake- all PWM mobo controlled
top- 2x Bitfenix SpectrePRO red LED 140mm outflow
rear- stock Corsair 140mm (not bad fans actually) outflow

Works very well for me!
As for lighting, LED strips are the way forward. CC tubes lose their brightness pretty quickly- and they're pretty dim to start with.
I use a white Akasa 30cm jobbie, sometimes supplemented by either blue or red...
 
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I too have an Air 540 case and absolutely love it. I decided to go with fans that were optimised for pressure rather than sheer air flow. The reasons for this are that the front panel has both a mesh guard and a dust filter to pull air through and I believe higher-pressure fans actually out-perform higher-speed ones because of this obstruction. Additionally I'm running a H100i up top, so again higher-pressure fans suit that application better. Finally, I hope to get into the dark art of water-cooling one day, and these fans make stellar rad fans apparently. However, you've specifically stated it's air only, so ignore that last point!

I ended up with:
3 x Scythe GT AP-15s (Front - Pulling IN)
2 x Scythe GT AP-15s (Top - Pulling OUT)
1 x Corsair AF140 Quiet (Back - Pushing OUT)

You may also want to invest in some dust filters for the bottom of the case. I picked up some SilverStone 140mm filters for this purpose and they do a great job for the price. The fit isn't quite perfect but they lock into place and I've never had them come loose etc. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CM-000-SV

I had been using my mobo to control the fans up until yesterday, but finally had enough of having to go to the BIOS to ramp them up or down. So I bought a Lamptron FC5 v2, which, aesthetically, goes well with the 540. I love being able to control the fans on the fly, but am having some teething issues with the readout. Probably my inexperience, though! It can also be used to control LED lighting etc, so might be worth a thought?
 
Thanks for the input guys, been helpful.

I've always thought that it's better to have more intake fans than exhaust fans so your not pulling air in through unfiltered intakes?

My other thought was. The top near front fan slot seems a bit of a waste of exhaust as it seems like it would just vent cold air that the front top fan is in-taking directly out the top of the case?

Will have a look into fan controllers and LED controllers. Mine is the silver case so need to find one to match well. My mombo controls the fans fairly well and has built in software to let me turn fans up and down at the press of a button (saves reaching for the case controller) :D
 
There are valid arguments for both positive and negative pressure, I'm not sure one has been proven 'better' than the other, especially as each case is different.

With our case we are fortunate in that the cabling provides almost no obstruction, which is a good start. Since hot air rises, it makes most sense to use the top-most and rear fans for exhaust. To balance that, in CFM terms, we can use the front fans for intake. Depending on your exact set-up, you will likely have postive/negative CFM. But I don't think it matters much.

If you had a lot more exhaust than intake (say, 4 fans vs 2) then you may find you do indeed get a significant amount of dust in. Filters help sometimes, but in other cases the filter creates resistance, and the air (which naturally find the place of least resistance) just enters elsewhere! Some people find that a set-up like this cools better, though, due to hot air being expelled faster and because there are less dead-spots.

If, on the other hand, you had 4 intakes vs 2 exhausts, you have the opposite problem. Dust won't be an issue as the pressure will likely prevent much from entering, but the actual temperature of the air may be warmer and you are more likely to develop dead spots that are not expelled. That said, those spots are usually a result of poor circulation, and with our case that's not something that you could readily achieve!

My own preference is to try to keep a balance between both, and if there has to be a compromise I lean on the side of positive pressure, mainly because I don't like dust. I think, with all fans running full speed, I am something like +10 at the moment.

Is that the AI Suite you're referring to for controlling the fans? I remember reading about Fan Xpert but was warned by many that the AI Suite is really tough to remove and so didn't bother with it. Might have been an error on my part, there!
 
There are valid arguments for both positive and negative pressure, I'm not sure one has been proven 'better' than the other, especially as each case is different.

With our case we are fortunate in that the cabling provides almost no obstruction, which is a good start. Since hot air rises, it makes most sense to use the top-most and rear fans for exhaust. To balance that, in CFM terms, we can use the front fans for intake. Depending on your exact set-up, you will likely have postive/negative CFM. But I don't think it matters much.

If you had a lot more exhaust than intake (say, 4 fans vs 2) then you may find you do indeed get a significant amount of dust in. Filters help sometimes, but in other cases the filter creates resistance, and the air (which naturally find the place of least resistance) just enters elsewhere! Some people find that a set-up like this cools better, though, due to hot air being expelled faster and because there are less dead-spots.

If, on the other hand, you had 4 intakes vs 2 exhausts, you have the opposite problem. Dust won't be an issue as the pressure will likely prevent much from entering, but the actual temperature of the air may be warmer and you are more likely to develop dead spots that are not expelled. That said, those spots are usually a result of poor circulation, and with our case that's not something that you could readily achieve!

My own preference is to try to keep a balance between both, and if there has to be a compromise I lean on the side of positive pressure, mainly because I don't like dust. I think, with all fans running full speed, I am something like +10 at the moment.

Is that the AI Suite you're referring to for controlling the fans? I remember reading about Fan Xpert but was warned by many that the AI Suite is really tough to remove and so didn't bother with it. Might have been an error on my part, there!

Ok, that makes sense. I do get a good build up of dust on the stock front filter that I clean every couple of weeks, so it's doing it's job well. I have spare fans, so I'm going to have a play with some setups.

Yeh, it's the Fan Xpert. Works fine for me, I don't really use anything else in the AI suite apart from the fan utility.


Another question. I currently have the Prolimatech CPU heatsink with the fan that came with it.

Prolimatech-Outs-Mid-Range-Panther-CPU-Cooler-2.jpg


I was thinking about going for a push/pull setup on it with some better none LED fans, but I'm not 100% sure on what fans I can use due to the clips. Any idea if it's possible to use different clips or another way to ghetto mount it?
 
Negative pressure does work quite well with the 540 but big caveat you need to make sure all intakes are filtered or sealed to prevent dust ingress which can be quite a bit of work with the bottom bit below the HDD bays, etc. you also have to get it balanced right to maintain good cooling performance - for most people positive pressure will probably work better.
 
Hmm I'm not sure about that cooler. But the fan looks like a pretty standard-sized 120mm affair, so I guess you could use other 120mm fans without an issue. I seem to remember some Prolimatech GPU coolers that allowed the user to pick from a range of fans, so hopefully this is the same. That is a complete guess, though! I'm sure someone with first-hand experience can help.

Negative pressure does work quite well with the 540 but big caveat you need to make sure all intakes are filtered or sealed to prevent dust ingress which can be quite a bit of work with the bottom bit below the HDD bays, etc. you also have to get it balanced right to maintain good cooling performance - for most people positive pressure will probably work better.

There's a great dust filter set for sale here, but it's quite costly. A decent alternative is a pair of 140mm Silverstone magnetic filters (they're around £4 a pop I think). They secure quite nicely to the openings at the base of the 540. I've heard some people trim them but I didn't find that to be necessary - they fit just fine out of the box. Could also get another for the PSU area, but I felt that was overkill for me.

I'd like to experiment with a negative set-up, and am thinking of adding another fan on the side window facing the GPU area. I guess setting that to be exhaust would give me something like -50 CFM overall. Would be interesting to see if there are any temp changes and/or dust ingress!
 
It's been some time since I looked at fans, but Corsair's SP range was always rated highly for heatsinks/rads:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-008-CS&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4

You can tell by the shape that the fan is optimised for pressure vs airflow, and the pressure rating (3.1 mm/H2O) confirms it! You'll get better cooling on a heatsink by using a fan like this as opposed to a fan set up for maximum airflow. At least, that's the consensus! The fan you selected also looks good, but the pressure seems a fair bit lower than the Corsair ones.

You could also consider the Scythe Gentle Typhoons or Noctua NF-P12s. They're both quite pricey, though, and also not exactly pretty! The GTs look okay except for the red, yellow and black wiring and the Noctua's have a colour scheme that is unlikely to mesh well with the rest of your build! Of course, it all depends what your priorities are...
 
It's been some time since I looked at fans, but Corsair's SP range was always rated highly for heatsinks/rads:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-008-CS&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4

You can tell by the shape that the fan is optimised for pressure vs airflow, and the pressure rating (3.1 mm/H2O) confirms it! You'll get better cooling on a heatsink by using a fan like this as opposed to a fan set up for maximum airflow. At least, that's the consensus! The fan you selected also looks good, but the pressure seems a fair bit lower than the Corsair ones.

You could also consider the Scythe Gentle Typhoons or Noctua NF-P12s. They're both quite pricey, though, and also not exactly pretty! The GTs look okay except for the red, yellow and black wiring and the Noctua's have a colour scheme that is unlikely to mesh well with the rest of your build! Of course, it all depends what your priorities are...

I don't think I can fit the Corsair fans to my heatsink because of the clips needing a square shape to clamp to. Not sure if I could buy new clips that will clamp in the corners.
 
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