Amazon’s First Smartphone

Focusing on the ecosystem a lot, which is a shame because the Amazon app store is ****ing ****e.
 
Focusing on the ecosystem a lot, which is a shame because the Amazon app store is ****ing ****e.

Yep, that is by far the largest reason I would never buy this phone.

I'm sure for some though they'll like it, and I can see why Amazon are wanting to build their own ecosystem.
 
Focusing on the ecosystem a lot, which is a shame because the Amazon app store is ****ing ****e.

But that will clearly change now there is a proper Amazon phone coming out with the Amazon App store preinstalled. There has been no compelling reason for anyone to put their apps on there apart from for a few Kindle owners and the odd person who bothered to allow unknown sources then download and manually install the App Store apk.

It's extremely easy for developers to place their Android apps on the Amazon App Store, with most apps needing no changes unless they are using Google APIs. Even then Amazon offer equivalent APIs so it is not going to be difficult. There just hasn't been a great reason to do so until now.
 
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On reflection, this really doesn't seem very good. I can't see the face tracking thing being particularly useful (and it will chew through the battery as well).

It's apparently $200 on contract in the US, so that's the same price as any other top end phone.
 
Yes, obviously. But when that ecosystem is massively, hugely, wildly inferior to the standard competition then it becomes a problem for the user.

Ecosystems have to start somewhere. There's no such thing as creationism, even in the world of smartphone ecosystems.
 
Ecosystems have to start somewhere. There's no such thing as creationism, even in the world of smartphone ecosystems.

But why would you but a product NOW, that's massively inferior to the competition, at the same price?

In a few years then maybe it will be a different situation, but that's not how it is now, which is what we're talking about here.
 
But why would you but a product NOW, that's massively inferior to the competition, at the same price?

In a few years then maybe it will be a different situation, but that's not how it is now, which is what we're talking about here.

Well it won't be any better in a few years if no one buys into it.
 
Well it won't be any better in a few years if no one buys into it.

Well you're welcome to buy the phone and suffer the poor ecosystem now if you want, but I don't fancy it. I'll stick with spending my money on the best I can find, rather than helping something improve to a point where it may be competitive in a few years.
 
Well you're welcome to buy the phone and suffer the poor ecosystem now if you want, but I don't fancy it. I'll stick with spending my money on the best I can find, rather than helping something improve to a point where it may be competitive in a few years.

Well if you want it to get better, support it! Don't just stand on the sidelines and complain!
 
Most of my apps come from Amazon (all free :p) It has everything I need.

$649/$749 is way, way too much, the 4.7" iPhone will be that price (won't it???) Where's our £100 commodity phone Jeff?

Anyway, looks OK but no thanks.
 
Dont understand why you'd pay through the nose for this, because lets face it, it's expensive for what it is. Why would you pay a premium to endure a crummy new ecosystem?

I know ecosystems have to start somewhere as someone has already rightly said, but if you're trying to build something up from scratch surely you'd be flogging the phones for next to nowt to get them in everybody's hands, not charging a premium and effectively pricing yourself out of an already overcrowded market.
 
It's extremely easy for developers to place their Android apps on the Amazon App Store, with most apps needing no changes unless they are using Google APIs. Even then Amazon offer equivalent APIs so it is not going to be difficult. There just hasn't been a great reason to do so until now.
Pull the other one Em3bbs :P

On one hand you could have one cloud API which does location, messaging, gaming, ads, casting and soon to be companion device & healthcare for a few billion phones or you could also maintain a second branch for AWS cloud API which is similar but not quite as good (as it was reverse engineered) and has a few parts missing / slightly behind the curve and your market will be at best probably 3-5%.

Don't get me wrong, people build wp apps and their market varies from 2-8% depending on country so being good in your small market can be extremely good, it's just a lot of effort to maintain 2 branches for 1 OS :/
 
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