Richard Huddy - Gaming Scientist Interviewed

AlamoX · 21 Jun 2014 at 21:40

layte said:
People who have signed up to and are using Gameworks not good enough then?

this signing you are talking about, is between nvidia & ubisoft, the dev teams are not part of it, they dont have a choice in the matter and they do not benefit financialy from the contract, they dont have a choice in the matter, and they are forced to use it weither they like it or not.

Gerard · 21 Jun 2014 at 21:48

andybird123 said:
You didnt say source code, you said SDK
And as pgi says, they are there

And yes they have download links if you actually log in

Its already been said the source code is what's needed numerous times in the last lot of threads..

andybird123 · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:05

Gerard said:
Its already been said the source code is what's needed numerous times in the last lot of threads..

I replied to what was posted

not really my lookout if humbug doesn't know the difference between a binarie's source code and an SDK that shows you how to make use of it

humbug · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:28

andybird123 said:
I replied to what was posted
not really my lookout if humbug doesn't know the difference between a binarie's source code and an SDK that shows you how to make use of it

So in future I will be more anal with my wording, just for you

andybird123 · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:31

its not a question of being anal, it is like saying gearbox when you mean engine
try taking your car in to a garage and asking them to put forged pistons in your gearbox, see how long it takes them to stop laughing

Final8y · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:34

humbug said:
So in future I will be more anal with my wording, just for you

Like make sure to wipe your bum after you have used the toilet would be not anal enough it seems for some and they will complain about the unpleasant outcome, because you did not say to wipe your bum with toilet paper, because that's what im getting with some of the" well you didn't specifically say that comments" when the obvious was clear.

humbug · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:37

Final8y said:
Like make sure to wipe your bum after you have used the toilet would be not anal enough it seems for some and they will complain about the unpleasant outcome, because you did not say to wipe your bum with toilet paper, because that's what im getting with some of the" well you didn't specifically say that comments" when the obvious was clear.

As the saying goes, these things are sent to try us

Final8y · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:39

andybird123 said:
I replied to what was posted
not really my lookout if humbug doesn't know the difference between a binarie's source code and an SDK that shows you how to make use of it

Irrelevant.

They said source code, what other things can be used for what is not the point.

Final8y · 21 Jun 2014 at 22:54

humbug said:
As the saying goes, these things are sent to try us

Indeed like the use of Freesync which is AMD exclusive software implementation to control Adaptive VSync.
But because the word Freesync is used many times to describe an Adaptive VSync monitor there is at least one guy running around the net saying that VESA Adaptive VSync is exclusive to AMD regardless of how many times he is told otherwise.

GoogalyMoogaly · 21 Jun 2014 at 23:38

Right, we no longer have to say what we mean and can just blame the other person if they don't know what we actually mean. Got it. Good to know.

triss · 21 Jun 2014 at 23:53

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Right, we no longer have to say what we mean and can just blame the other person if they don't know what we actually mean. Got it. Good to know.

You can say what you like , believe who you like over who you dont,, dismiss any and all results you dont like, and the result you found on the obscure website if it fits your point is the 100% fact, and if you have no facts just point out its not proved your theory is wrong as you dont trust the company involved
Basically business as usual

humbug · 22 Jun 2014 at 01:19

Final8y said:
Not going to make a new thread, the OP can added it to the first page.
The better interview in my opinion.

Without a doubt he is an asset to team Red.

layte · 22 Jun 2014 at 02:12

triss said:
You can say what you like , believe who you like over who you dont,, dismiss any and all results you dont like, and the result you found on the obscure website if it fits your point is the 100% fact, and if you have no facts just point out its not proved your theory is wrong as you dont trust the company involved

That should be the new sub heading of this forum.

PhysicsMan94 · 22 Jun 2014 at 02:22

layte said:
triss said:

You can say what you like , believe who you like over who you dont,, dismiss any and all results you dont like, and the result you found on the obscure website if it fits your point is the 100% fact, and if you have no facts just point out its not proved your theory is wrong as you dont trust the company involved
Basically business as usual

Click to expand...

That should be the new sub heading of this forum.

Quite!

pgi947 · 26 Jun 2014 at 09:10

The key is in the wording, 'some'. Let's cherry pick contracts that put us in a good light and use it as a PR stunt. Equally nvidia could do the same. All a little childish tbh.

LtMatt · 26 Jun 2014 at 09:22

https://twitter.com/killyourfm/status/482057550339530752

pgi947 said:
The key is in the wording, 'some'. Let's cherry pick contracts that put us in a good light and use it as a PR stunt. Equally nvidia could do the same. All a little childish tbh.

They're offering up the contract Nvidia called them out on Tomb Raider, as well as others. To be honest i expect any Gaming Evolved contract could be published and none will have clauses forbidding the dev to optimize amd tech for Nvidia cards.

elmuzzy66. · 26 Jun 2014 at 09:23

Why some all or nothing imo.

Yaayuh! · 26 Jun 2014 at 09:24

LtMatt said:
..

I'm neutral and really couldn't give a **** who works with who. Just give me a powerful card that works well with games and have multi-GPU profiles/capabilities from day 1.

You don't need a contract with a developer to get that, though it would be more efficient, what do i care about the difference between 70 and 90 fps (example)?

I haven't had problems with nVidia and BF4 and likewise with AMD and games in the past. The only issues were obvious, no crossfire or driver crash, which gets resolved ASAP.

For me, both sides can willy-wave, blow developers and slap their name and gimmicks on games all they want. If it's a good game and graphics card X can play it well, that's all i care about.

AMD can call out nVidia all they want. nVidia can sit back and ride out sales just on their name, like some sort of strange cult. Give credit where due though, AMD are working their **** off marketing and promoting mantle.

LtMatt · 26 Jun 2014 at 09:25

elmuzzy66. said:
Why some all or nothing imo.

Agreed, If there's nothing to hide, lets put all our cards on the table and see who's up to foul play. I think we all know the answer deep down.

Rossi~ said:
I'm neutral and really couldn't give a **** who works with who. Just give me a powerful card that works well with games and have multi-GPU profiles/capabilities from day 1.

You don't need a contract with a developer to get that, though it would be more efficient, what do i care about the difference between 70 and 90 fps (example)?

I haven't had problems with nVidia and BF4 and likewise with AMD and games in the past. The only issues were obvious, no crossfire or driver crash, which gets resolved ASAP.

For me, both sides can willy-wave, blow developers and slap their name and gimmicks on games all they want. If it's a good game and graphics card X can play it well, that's all i care about.

AMD can call out nVidia all they want. nVidia can sit back and ride out sales just on their name, like some sort of strange cult. Give credit where due though, AMD are working their **** off marketing and promoting mantle.

It's all good in love and gpu war.

pgi947 · 26 Jun 2014 at 09:33

LtMatt said:
They're offering up the contract Nvidia called them out on Tomb Raider, as well as others. To be honest i expect any Gaming Evolved contract could be published and none will have clauses forbidding the dev to optimize amd tech for Nvidia cards.

If they could do any why not do all? 'Some' just sounds like they have things to hide in other contracts, while they have a few they feel suits their argument. How ever they want to dress it up I can guarantee someone will pick it to death, contracts are in place to protect both parties, bound to be parts in it that make both amd and the developer look bad. But this is how contracts are. Go read your contract of employment and tell me how bad it makes your employers look for protecting their interests.

Above everything else, isn't it a little unprofessional for a multi billion dollar company to be publishing private contracts online? It could drive clients away, who would want to deal with a company that would throw legally binding contracts online to settle a petty argument? I can't think of many that would. Some of the clients I deal with are as big if not bigger then amd, they would absolutely loose their **** if someone started displaying their contracts online.