National Service

Meridian · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:20

So your solution to people being scum is to make them fit scum who have been trained to kill?

uksoldierboy · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:22

Mr Joshua said:
I would rather go to prison for refusing to take part in national service if it meant joining one of the armed forces.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of course, but can i ask why?

deuse · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:22

Good idea.

Efour · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:23

uksoldierboy said:
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of course, but can i ask why?

Perhaps the thought of being used as a pawn in a war against another guy who is in the same position makes him sick.

CREATIVE!11 · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:24

OP you trippin

Mynight · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:24

uksoldierboy said:
1+

Edited- sorry Myknight, just saw your post, good lad

Lol no worries I looked like a right ***** there

uksoldierboy · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:25

Efour said:
Perhaps the thought of being used as a pawn in a war against another guy who is in the same position makes him sick.

Is that how you felt when you went to war for this country Efour? like a pawn?

Sliver · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:26

Mynight said:
Sorry apparently I forgot to quote dimples chav post

No problem.

Freefaller · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:26

Theophany said:
I think National Service isn't a bad idea, but I don't think that it has to be purely military service. Some kind of public service to instill a sense of national pride, social responsibility etc wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

Of course, I only say that because I'm too old for it.

Agreed.

Rofflay · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:26

Why the enemy aint abroad? He is at home i tells ye! Home!

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Uncle Petey · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:27

Mynight said:
Lol no worries I looked like a right ***** there

Not really. I don't think what you said needed to be explained tbh.

Kamerad · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:27

As a serving soldier I wouldn't want to work alongside anyone that had been forced to be there.

spoffle · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:28

Theophany said:
I think National Service isn't a bad idea, but I don't think that it has to be purely military service. Some kind of public service to instill a sense of national pride, social responsibility etc wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

Of course, I only say that because I'm too old for it.

Social responsibility, sure, but national pride isn't a good thing.

Mynight · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:29

Uncle Petey said:
Not really. I don't think what you said needed to be explained tbh.

You read it the way I intended?

Sliver · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:31

spoffle said:
Social responsibility, sure, but national pride isn't a good thing.

Why is national pride a bad thing ? Are you advocating that everyone should despise their own country ?

I'm proud to be English and to have served my country, but it doesn't mean I run around with rose tinted glasses on. I know we have a lot major issues which need addressing, but I resolve that side of things at the ballot box.

thep02 · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:31

Nah, expensive waste of peoples time and useless for the armed services, if you want a bigger army make the renumeration more attractive, if you nwant to be nasty to chavs send them to prison if you want to stop chavs happening make their parenting better and go back in time to when the lower orders aspired to be a toolmaker for the good money not a pimp.

dowie · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:31

pointless - we've got a professional armed forces, they don't require conscripts

The govt could make reserve service more attractive - perhaps legally enforce extra compulsory leave for reservists (2 weeks to cover annual training requirements) - something which some large companies already voluntarily agree to and pay bonuses to small employers who employ reservists (as a form of compensation). Make it a more attractive prospect for everyone.
That's the area we've got a shortfall in under the current govt policies - recruitment into the reserves is massively under target...

Skidder · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:32

deuse said:
Good idea.

Any idea endorsed by you is almost certainly monumentally poor.

Uncle Petey · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:33

Mynight said:
You read it the way I intended?

Yeah, it wasn't especially cryptic or anything mate

uksoldierboy · 26 Jun 2014 at 21:33

Kamerad said:
As a serving soldier I wouldn't want to work alongside anyone that had been forced to be there.

1+ I think for me that would be the biggest issue with national service, while they discipline side of it would help those that needed it, i wouldn't fancy being stuck in a contact on tour with someone who's mind is elsewhere.