The end of Plasma

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First Panasonic, now Samsung end production of plasma TVs - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28143408

"While plasma is a lot better than LED/LCD TVs in terms of image quality, such as contrast ratio, and motion handling, it has a few drawbacks.

"Plasma TVs can't be made a thin as LEDs, for example. People like stylish tellies."
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Says it all doesn't it. People want nice flash looking TVs 1cm thick to show off to their neighbours, even if the picture quality would be better on a 1 inch thick plasma :rolleyes:
 
Reminds of CRT vs TFT.

Size, weight and cost vs image quality.

I'm not too bothered, plasma screens were never my cup of tea anywho.
 
The power savings are good though my Panny eats 220W when on, modern waffer thin LCD's about 38W.

Shame the picture quality improovment isn't in the same ball park
 
Or perhaps people want thin TV's that don't take up room, don't need the wall being reinforced and don't have to take a mortgagee out to pay for the electric.

And lets not forget, declining sales, declining profits and more importantly
the real culprit is likely an increasing focus on 4K, and an inability to manufacture higher-res plasma sets for the mass market.
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I am far from caring about TV technology, but i must say that i much prefer the image on plasma screens. This is why all 4 of our large screen TV's are plasma based in my house.

I dont care about any of the points Glaucus raises, wall mounted TV's are the heigh of naffness anyway.
 
You don't care that as the focus switches to 4k, they can't make 4k plasmas and this is almost certainly their main reason for ditching them. The other reasons just help make the choice easier.

Here we go, from the horses mouth.

Panasonic plasma TV

A Panasonic USA senior employee, who posts exclusively on the HighDefJunkies forum under the username “avjunkie”, has revealed that the significant amount of resources required to develop a consumer-grade 4K plasma TV was the final nail in the coffin for the company’s PDP business:


"The main reason we have to move on is technology hit a roadblock. We simply cannot make a 4k plasma in a reasonable manner for retail without significant investment"
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I dont care about the technology behind TV's whatsoever. I was just making the observation that with current TV's (all of which i have ever seen anyhow) Plasma based displays are undoubtedly the better looking ones.

Feed a non high bit rate satellite channel through a 1080p or 4k LCD and it looks utterly terrible. My 1080p plasmas at least go some way to masking the broadcast.
 
Does that mean that soon my plasma will be considered a rare priceless commodity? Get Bargain Hunt on the phone!

I'll be glad to see the back of my plasma though. The heat they generate alone is enough of a reason to switch.
 
I read somewhere that the EU (bless 'em :rolleyes:) and its European Ecodesign Directive frowned on the fact the plasmas consumed too much power in their eyes, so they ruled a certain sized telly could only consume x amount of watts maximum.

To design bigger plasmas that would consume less power, would be either uneconomical or unprofitable.

Considering Samsung & LG (not sure if they are packing in or have packed up plasma telly making) dominate the telly market over here these days & Samsung have decided Plasma is now a dead tech, Maybe the Chinese will pick up the baton. :p
 
Grimley said:
I read somewhere that the EU (bless 'em :rolleyes:) and its European Ecodesign Directive frowned on the fact the plasmas consumed too much power in their eyes, so they ruled a certain sized telly could only consume x amount of watts maximum.

To design bigger plasmas that would consume less power, would be either uneconomical or unprofitable.

Considering Samsung & LG (not sure if they are packing in or have packed up plasma telly making) dominate the telly market over here these days & Samsung have decided Plasma is now a dead tech, Maybe the Chinese will pick up the baton. :p
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I thought Plasmas were reducing down in power requirements? Obviously not as much as LCD etc, but none-the-less to the extent where they weren't huge power users?
 
Quite a shame really, means I won't be upgrading till such a time OLED is cheap enough to warrent. I don't get the whole 'thinner, the better' attidude though. The old man has a massive, very expensive Samsung and truth be told it looks dreadful compared to my Plasma.

He got it purely to show off, which is evident with how many times he's told me how many people like it. He doesn't even HD through it, his only HD source (PS3) has been put in the spare room.

Good advertising by TV companies though, most people I know with HDTVs are still running SD content through it and they never seem to mind about PQ. So the market for people wanting high quality screens must be very low.
 
Begbie said:
Good advertising by TV companies though, most people I know with HDTVs are still running SD content through it and they never seem to mind about PQ. So the market for people wanting high quality screens must be very low.
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Honestly the amount of times the other half puts a channel on and I tell her there is a HD version, For her to just say "so"

Her parents do it also, Drives me mad. :o
 
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Or perhaps people want thin TV's that don't take up room, don't need the wall being reinforced and don't have to take a mortgagee out to pay for the electric.
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1kWh costs around 18p (depending on your supplier). So a 330w TV costs 6p per hour to run. I know everyone wants to save the world etc, but electricity is cheap.
 
FerretBoy said:
1kWh costs around 18p (depending on your supplier). So a 330w TV costs 6p per hour to run. I know everyone wants to save the world etc, but electricity is cheap.
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The cost of power is a moot point when spending 1k upwards on a tv
I have never considered it a burden

Maybe if you are on dole watching TV 16hrs a day
 
The cost argument is stupid.

Plasma will cost you £30 at best more to run per year, modern ones only use 100W more than their LCD counterparts when comparing the same size of LCD to PLASMA.

What I can tell you is that a £1000 plasma beats a £2000 LCD in PQ, so to save £30 per year people buy a inferiro tv which costs £1000 more? they do because of marketing and being sheep wanting to impress friends with how thin their tv is.

i know when I look at my tv i don't care how thin it is (even though modern plasmas nowadays are thin and light - so many myths) all i care about is how good the picture looks.

i can lift my 50" plasma using one hand without breaking a sweat. it's also very very thin, probably 25% of the width of my old plasma.
 
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The cost argument is stupid.

Plasma will cost you £30 at best more to run per year, modern ones only use 100W more than their LCD counterparts when comparing the same size of LCD to PLASMA.

What I can tell you is that a £1000 plasma beats a £2000 LCD in PQ, so to save £30 per year people buy a inferiro tv which costs £1000 more? they do because of marketing and being sheep wanting to impress friends with how thin their tv is.

i know when I look at my tv i don't care how thin it is (even though modern plasmas nowadays are thin and light - so many myths) all i care about is how good the picture looks.

i can lift my 50" plasma using one hand without breaking a sweat. it's also very very thin, probably 25% of the width of my old plasma.
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Well, your current plasma will almost certainly be your last by the looks of it :(

We'll have to get compromised LCD TVs from now on...
 
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