Peadophiles in the House of Commons

[leaskovski]

I don't know what all the shock is about here... MP's have been screwing the kids since day 1. Just look at Tuition Fees.

ARF ARF!!!

 

[boxman2000]

They're trying to class pedophilia as a lifestyle choice just like they have homosexuality. A few years and there will be no age of consent

I was going to post something along this line as well.

I wouldn't post it up here for fear of being banned (due to some uncomfortable content) but I read an excellent article that covered this exact topic and was extremely eye opening, and almost made me want to be sick. In a nutshell it was talking about how moral issues within society can change in a generation (e.g. acceptance of homosexuality in last 20 years) and it appears as though a similar tac is being taken by these people with this terrible perversion and the alienation of high profile individuals that have had non-consensual relations (which is the key to the sickos argument) and trying to wear public perception down to the consensual argument.

The law is the law, personally I think too many 16 year olds are far too young to engage in sexual activity but at least there is a line.

The whole subject sickens me to be fair but this secular state wants what it wants so this sort of thing is the reward we reap, sadly.

 

[elmarko]

I was going to post something along this line as well.

I wouldn't post it up here for fear of being banned (due to some uncomfortable content) but I read an excellent article that covered this exact topic and was extremely eye opening, and almost made me want to be sick. In a nutshell it was talking about how moral issues within society can change in a generation (e.g. acceptance of homosexuality in last 20 years) and it appears as though a similar tac is being taken by these people with this terrible perversion and the alienation of high profile individuals that have had non-consensual relations (which is the key to the sickos argument) and trying to wear public perception down to the consensual argument.

The law is the law, personally I think too many 16 year olds are far too young to engage in sexual activity but at least there is a line.

The whole subject sickens me to be fair but this secular state wants what it wants so this sort of thing is the reward we reap, sadly.

Except for the massive child rape issues we have in churches.

Acceptance of homosexuality is nothing like acceptance of paedophilia. You are utterly utterly wrong.

 

[Efour]

I'm gonna argue, devils advocate, that whilst we find it morally repugnant now, It hasn't been viewed as such in the past.

More to the point. Homosexuality should never have been 'wrong' in the first place. I guess we have religion to thank for that.

Actually i'm not gonna argue anything saying its natural. Its certainly messed up by my moral standards.

 

[D.P.]

It's also an odd use of the term natural.

If by natural they mean occurring in nature, then by that definition everything which happens in the universe is natural (the opposite being super-natural).

And that is just the point, natural does mean occurring in nature without human intervention. Paedophilia natural occurs in animals and humans, so does rape and murder.

Weather something is natural or not is pretty meaningless.

 

[Mynight]

Does anyone actually expect anyone in power to be caught? I sincerely doubt there will be it will be cover up after cover up.

 

[D.P.]

Really, it seems like some proponents of paedophilia (mentioned in the article) are attempting to misuse the term 'natural' to mean 'acceptable', ergo the media focus.

I don't think that is the case at all. What they are pointing out is that there is a natural occurrence of attraction to younger teenagers an children.

 

[D.P.]

Really?

I guess it depends on what you class as "children". 14-15 year old who has gone through puberty and "developed"? Yeah, I guess that's natural, but that would be classed as ephebophilia.

An actual child? Nope, can't say I find anything sexually attractive there...

That's ignoring the biological/evolutionary reasons - i.e. that they are unable to reproduce.

Just because something is natural and normally occurring doesn't mean that 100% of the population showing the same trait.

Blonde hair is natural and normal, but I certainly don't have blonde hair. Blue eys are natural and normal, but I don't have blue eyes.

 

[arknor]

I find it more than suspicious that a dossier containing information about paedophile MP's which was in the possession of MP's at Westminster, has gone missing. Looks to me like someone is trying to cover up their past.

yup doubt we ever find out the whole truth about the eton paedo gang

At least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children … Normal males are aroused by children

**** off!!!
If I ever saw someone molesting a child I wouldn't even have to think about my reaction, fists would be flying and I probably wouldn't be able to stop my self

I don't even look at teen porn 18-20+ year olds are of absolutely no interest to me at all I prefer people around my own age or slightly older. (33)

 

[elmarko]

I don't think that is the case at all. What they are pointing out is that there is a natural occurrence of attraction to younger teenagers an children.

In the article it mentions people who are actively campaigning to legalise sex with children - this is the group I was referring to who are misusing the terms.

 

[Judgeneo]

I don't think that is the case at all. What they are pointing out is that there is a natural occurrence of attraction to younger teenagers an children.

Indeed.
What is unnatural is preference for such people over adults.

 

[RageQuit©]

Is this just the tip

If they were lucky!

 

[doodah]

Does anyone actually expect anyone in power to be caught? I sincerely doubt there will be it will be cover up after cover up.

I expect 'no stone to be left unturned' and for the findings to match the same level of scrutiny* as the Chilcot inquiry.

*highly critical of some aspects, wishy washy in most and lessons to be learned.

 

[Mynight]

I expect 'no stone to be left unturned' and for the findings to match the same level of scrutiny* as the Chilcot inquiry.

*highly critical of some aspects, wishy washy in most and lessons to be learned.

I can only hope they keep to their promises in this matter. Based on past promises and essentially it being their own club being investigated I remain sceptical .

 

[asim18]

I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Are you implying that in some way paedophilia is similar to homosexuality?, or just an absurd comment ignoring the fact that the reason homosexuality is fine & legal is due to the fact it causes no more objective harm than heterosexual ones & has no issues related to informed consent (unlike paedophilia which has a huge potential for harm, abuse & can't be engaged in between two people able to give consent).

No. But homosexuality used to be regarded as similar to paedophilia by more people. Now due to the availability of media, the reality is that homosexuality is getting far more advertised and acceptable.

The high availability of news and media in this day and age will also have a similar effect on paedophilia; more celebrities who were once trusted and regarded exceptional in their respective fields will start getting exposed as paedophiles. Slowly and sadly, people will start accepting it. It has already started with headlines which read "'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'". That simple phrase and the notion itself have already been implanted in millions of people's subconscious.

This media generation and everything it brings is causing the world to become perverse at an exponential rate. The TV industry created a platform for paedophiles to quench their desires, and then they shoot us while were down by saying paedo's are normal.

What I'm trying to say is humanity is on a path of self destruction. The ability for ideas to communicate globally and reach massive audiences will exponentially accelerate that inevitability.

 

[porushinobu]

yup doubt we ever find out the whole truth about the eton paedo gang


**** off!!!
If I ever saw someone molesting a child I wouldn't even have to think about my reaction, fists would be flying and I probably wouldn't be able to stop my self

I don't even look at teen porn 18-20+ year olds are of absolutely no interest to me at all I prefer people around my own age or slightly older. (33)

yuor forgetting the word "minority" like a lot of people seem to have in this post

 

[D.P.]

In the article it mentions people who are actively campaigning to legalise sex with children - this is the group I was referring to who are misusing the terms.

Sex with children or sex with post pubescent teenagers (and pre-teens). those a re not the same thing. In the past sex with a post-pubescent child was legal and normal. In many countries now the age of consent is 13, and even in countries with a higher age of consent many children are having sex before the arbitrary 16/18 limit.


I don't know about these groups at all but I assume they want to remove the arbitrary factor and make things like a 16 YO boy having sex with a 15 YO girl legal.

 

[D.P.]

yup doubt we ever find out the whole truth about the eton paedo gang


**** off!!!
If I ever saw someone molesting a child I wouldn't even have to think about my reaction, fists would be flying and I probably wouldn't be able to stop my self

I don't even look at teen porn 18-20+ year olds are of absolutely no interest to me at all I prefer people around my own age or slightly older. (33)

Someone else who has absolutely no concept of the word minority

A majority of humans are black, but being white is still natural and normal!

 

[Haggisman]

yuor forgetting the word "minority" like a lot of people seem to have in this post

However the way the word "normal" is used in the article that people are referring to implies that it is a majority.

It may be "normal" for that minority, but that doesn't mean it is "normal" in the grand scheme of things.

You could say that it is "normal" for murderers to kill people - however that doesn't mean it is normal to kill people - the word normal only applies to the murderer minority.

It would have been more accurate for the article to state "it is normal for the minority of men who are attracted to children to be attracted to children"...

 

[Amp34]

Surely the natural end will be all those who had sexually abused & raped children received the appropriate punishment & are no longer put into positions where they are able to still.

I agree that the media dramatises it (it looks a good scandal & adores the prospects of seeing celebrities fall from grace - this situation is a match made in heaven for them), but I don't think that should detract from society addressing some severe problems related to how a number interact with children.

These kind of things tend to hurt the incumbent more, but yeah - this kind of thing isn't going to be isolated to any one side of the political spectrum.

The problem isn't the arrest and trial of people who have broken the law, it is the trial by media and destruction of people's careers before they are even charged, let alone found guilty. It goes back to allowing anonymity of people arrested for sex offences until they are found guilty (unless there are extenuating circumstances). Then the constant bombardment of trials and "evidence" removing any chance of a truly fair trial.

All we need is a single report stating the outcome of a trial, not the chaos that happens after each report of arrest and trial...