Voice your opposition to the Israeli actions for the past 65+ years

AndyCroft1982 said:
Lighten up mate i was just making light of your extremist views thats all
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My views aren't extreme, you just don't understand them, genuinely.

I am not telling you what you can and can't think, I am saying that "my opinion" isn't a valid claim and defence for saying things that aren't true. A lot of people use this tactic and believe that because they are "entitled" to an opinion, that they can run their mouth, talk about stuff they don't understand and just be in general highly ignorant, and that because it's "their opinion" that it's okay.
 
spoffle said:
My views aren't extreme, you just don't understand them, genuinely.

I am not telling you what you can and can't think, I am saying that "my opinion" isn't a valid claim and defence for saying things that aren't true. A lot of people use this tactic and believe that because they are "entitled" to an opinion, that they can run their mouth, talk about stuff they don't understand and just be in general highly ignorant, and that because it's "their opinion" that it's okay.
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And that is YOUR opnion

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/opinion
 
spoffle said:
It's not my opinion, it's objective that someone saying something that isn't true, can't legitimately claim that what they've said is valid just because it's their opinion. Hence the concept of invalid opinions.
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No one mentioned valid opinions, it was you that said people can't have an opinion if you do not agree with it ?
 
Responding to Craterloads ludicrous post a couple of pages back with all the alleged Israeli breaches of the ceasefire, one of the reasons fishermen are targeted is owing to the fact that Palestinian terrorists routinely use submerged barrels with timer switches on to travel along the underwater currents between Egypt and Gaza which are set to float after a set time and be collected in the fishing nets. These barrels are loaded with weapons and explosives for acts of terror.

The reason that seemingly open plots of land are bombed is to destroy or collapse tunnels that are being dug to pass under the security fence to allow infiltration of jihadists intent on committing acts of terror.

"Farmers" are complicit in this in aiding the tunnels to be dug in the correct direction and depth and to provide a noise screen to try and prevent the electronic security devices from picking up the sounds and vibrations on the tunneling.

Civilian buildings are bombed as they are being used as arms caches or weapon factories.

Are some innocent civilians killed/injured? Of course but it is not a state policy of annihilation as being proposed by him and others. Especially as innocent fishermen/farmers/civilians may not know that the floating barrel/tunnel beneath them/weapons factory in the basement are actually there in their net or field or school/mosque/hospital basement.

Oh, look at that. A flying pig.

Oh
 
AndyCroft1982 said:
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When you have to change what I've said to back up your "argument" you've started down the road of strawman fallacies.

Aside from that, the whole issue here is that you seemingly don't understand what an informed opinion actually is.

It's irrelevant as to whether people agree or disagree with an invalid/uninformed "opinion" it doesn't impact whether it's true or not.

You cannot make untrue claims about things and use "but it's my opinion to try and claim that what you've said is valid.

You can't validly claim that someone who is tall, is short, just with "but my opinion". Do you see how that works? If someone is tall it doesn't matter who disagrees or agrees with the claim, it's not a valid claim.
 
Mejinks' assertions that the Talmud calls for all Jews to murder Gentiles is farcical.

However, now I have stopped laughing at the horses "donkey" he has made of himself, let's consider that, hypothetically it is true. Where are all these baby eating Jews when a Boeing needs to be piloted into a skyscraper? Or when a delayed rush hour train or bus needs a good bombing?

It could be that these religious "Jew terrorists" are too busy kidnapping school girls to pass around their "Kosher Kamps" for their soldiers'entertainment before selling them into slavery or perhaps they are plotting the next shopping Centre in Kenya to take over and massacre innocent goyim there.

The problem is all those other Jews are obviously misinterpreting what their Talmud tells them by getting on with life and contributing to the advancement of Science, technology, medical knowledge, art, culture, economics etc. You cannot judge all Jews by this minority that refuses to follow their Talmud and murder all goyim.
 
spoffle said:
When you have to change what I've said to back up your "argument" you've started down the road of strawman fallacies.

Aside from that, the whole issue here is that you seemingly don't understand what an informed opinion actually is.

It's irrelevant as to whether people agree or disagree with an invalid/uninformed "opinion" it doesn't impact whether it's true or not.

You cannot make untrue claims about things and use "but it's my opinion to try and claim that what you've said is valid.

You can't validly claim that someone who is tall, is short, just with "but my opinion". Do you see how that works? If someone is tall it doesn't matter who disagrees or agrees with the claim, it's not a valid claim.
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I just got bored of going over the same topic of yours, it was basically what you were saying. I have read enough info from both sides to have an opinion, whether you think it is valid compared to your biased opiniopn really doesn't interest me tbh. If you want to carry on going over the same topic about opinions then feel free, just so you know it is getting a little tiresome :rolleyes:
 
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