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Whats with the <20k miles on the clock?
You're looking at Dieseasels, 20k is nowt :/
You're looking at Dieseasels, 20k is nowt :/
New Mazda 6 Tourer
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I had issues with parts for my previous generation Mazda 6. In my case I was told that anything not stocked at the dealer (and that wasn't much) had to come from their European parts centre and that always meant 2 days minimum. This included items like the exhaust and some brake parts my older car needed, forcing me to go for pattern parts.
I was told that Mazda were re-thinking establishing a UK parts centre but don't know any more. Fortunately my Mazda 6 was incredibly reliable unlike my current Audi, although in Audi's favour they seem to be able to get almost any part in first thing the next working day.
I picked up a 62 plate Mazda 6 tourer sport nav with 6000 miles for £17k, tbh I couldnt find anything else local to me that came close to the price and spec.
Their were a couple of mercedes that was near but the wife wasnt keen on them. Most of the BMW came with no Idrive and none of the toys the mazda has. I coundnt bring myself to get an mondeo estate as the design has been updated in 7 years.
Though I could have looked at older cars the wife was insistent that it was 2 years or less in age.
Their were a couple of mercedes that was near but the wife wasnt keen on them. Most of the BMW came with no Idrive and none of the toys the mazda has. I coundnt bring myself to get an mondeo estate as the design has been updated in 7 years.
Though I could have looked at older cars the wife was insistent that it was 2 years or less in age.
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I'm sure if it had a BMW badge, it would be first on your list.
All your posts seem to be along the same lines don't they... if it had a BMW badge it wouldn't change anything because it'd just be a Mazda6 with a BMW badge
My point is that it's a significant budget and you can do better than the Mazda6 with this budget if you are prepared to look at used cars, which the OP clearly is.
It's hard to disagree with that really - if the criteria was that it absolutely had to be new then I think it'd be quite a good buy really, they're a handsome car and by all accounts reasonable to drive but the mazdas' tend to shed value at an incredible rate once they're a couple of years old so for me it'd be a case of spending less on a used one or picking up something else that's already on a slower part of its depreciation curve.
As someone that has switched from Mazda to Audi, I can see both sides of the "it's still a Mazda" point. Everything in my A6 is much better quality than my Mazda 6 and equivalent gadgets often work better.
However the running costs of my Mazda were excellent (fantastic reliability, cheaper routine parts etc). The cars also come with more features as standard which makes a new/used purchase far easier than finding a used BMW/Audi with equivalent specification.
Overall I think it can be a closer call than it might appear. The deciding factor for me was wanting a more powerful car, an area where Mazda like many manufacturers are now rather lacking.
However the running costs of my Mazda were excellent (fantastic reliability, cheaper routine parts etc). The cars also come with more features as standard which makes a new/used purchase far easier than finding a used BMW/Audi with equivalent specification.
Overall I think it can be a closer call than it might appear. The deciding factor for me was wanting a more powerful car, an area where Mazda like many manufacturers are now rather lacking.
[TW]Fox;26630472 said:All your posts seem to be along the same lines don't they... if it had a BMW badge it wouldn't change anything because it'd just be a Mazda6 with a BMW badge
My point is that it's a significant budget and you can do better than the Mazda6 with this budget if you are prepared to look at used cars, which the OP clearly is.
Likewise.
Whats wrong with a Mazda6?
Well of course the A6 sits in a higher segment and is a much more expensive car, so you would expect it to have better materials, but it is still an Audi.
As for power, it is fine on the Mazda, the obsessions with power is nonsense, unless you like beating 1.0 Corsa's off the lights and bombing down the M6 at 120mph.
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Obsession with power and wanting more than 150bhp in a large car are two very different things.
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Whereas my saloon has 245bhp and I still feel a bit more power would be usable and make for easier overtaking. 150bhp would be frustratingly underpowered.
People have different requirements.
People have different requirements.
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Nothing wrong with a M6 but its maddness to spend 20k on one, for one it will depreciate a heck of a lot more than a German motor. Which ever way you look at it, 20k for a family chariot is a lot of money, you try and get the best value going, chintzy extras dont necessarily translate to better value.
Once you drop your view that obviously I dislike the Mazda6 because ITS NOT A BMW OMG, which is complete rubbish, you'll be surprised to learn that I actually like the Mazda6 - it's a decent car.
But it's a decent car that sheds value quickly and means that frankly its a good choice for a circa £10k budget, not a £20k budget. Once you've got £20k to spend on a used car, you can buy better cars than a Mazda6, whereas at £10k those better cars are much older and much higher mileage therefore a less sensible alternative.
There are loads of Mazda approved 2 year old cars with sensible mileage for about £11-12k in Touring form. Ok, currently they are not the new model, but it gives you a clue as to where the values go and how quickly. At £11k a 2 year old Mazda6 is a great buy. At £20k, less so.
Let the fleet buyers pick up new and nearly new Mazda 6's.
If you want to spend £20k on a nearly new 2 litre diesel car there are many to chose from, from a wide range of brands including Volvo, Audi, BMW, potentially VW, etc.
Of course, and it will be dependent on the specific car too, with its weight and how it puts the power down. But on a circa 1400kg medium sized saloon like the Mazda6, 150bhp is enough and on the diesel there is enough torque to overtake adequately.
RE: depreciation - I don't disagree, I wouldn't spend 20k on one either when a new one costs a few grand more, but my irk was with how you said it, sounded as if its not worth it because its a 'Mazda' that's inherently crap, sounded a bit snobbish.
Saying that I don't know why anyone would want to spend 20k on a VW, Audi, Volvo etc either, when the Mazda6 IMO is a much much nicer overall car.
Saying that I don't know why anyone would want to spend 20k on a VW, Audi, Volvo etc either, when the Mazda6 IMO is a much much nicer overall car.
That's you (mis)interpreting something entirely and construing his reply in a negative way.
Really? Volvos are arguably the nicest place to be in this class. VW abd Audi interiors are a step above Mazda too
Yes it is....but based on post history and general thought process of this forum.
Really? Volvos are arguably the nicest place to be in this class. VW abd Audi interiors are a step above Mazda too
Yes really!
Audi and VW interiors are not superior , and the interior being supposedly 'nicer' is not high on my list. The Mazda looks far superior inside and out, is more sportier and fun to drive and will be far better in terms of reliability, would have it any day over the other dull dross.
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I'm glad you're happy with your Mazda and I agree they look smart. However its engine is adequate only, I doubt a 150hp FWD diesel is much fun to drive from any make, and it's interior is a step below some other options, there are better cars out there, it's not snobbish to suggest it.
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