Voice your opposition to the Israeli actions for the past 65+ years

It's horrible how many of our MPs are in the Conservative Friends of Israel. If you go on their home page, the banner is a bloody picture of David Cameron!

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/21/israel-asks-london-what-would-you-do-if-you-were-under-attack-4805904/

Well, given that London was subject to domestic terrorism for a very long time, what we didn't do was wall up Republican areas in Belfast and bomb the **** out of them, we didn't blockade anyone or mistreat civilians just because they happen to be republicans.

These guys are dicks, honestly. I can't believe they're trying to compare us with them. If you replace the IDF with Hamas, then you get the right sort of message.
 
Whilst we didn't bomb then with jets, everything else we did do.

I don't recall a blockade or attacks on either Belfast or Dublin, I don't recall the annexation of them either...or the bombing of civilian targets in Belfast or Dublin, or the removal of people's right to return to their homeland, or indiscriminate arrests without charge, or the bulldozing of homes of republicans, or the forced removal of republicans from their homes and employment and any number of things that can be listed, such as collective punishment and missile attacks into populated civilian areas.
 
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It's terrible what Israel is doing but Hamas is just as guilty. They are like two squabbling children. Sadly I can't imagine we will ever find a solution for the violence other than one side being totally wiped out.
 
The interesting thing about this thread is that one could predict accurately the people on this forum who would complain about big bad Israel and those who would think their actions predictable/laudable before even reading it.
 
The interesting thing about this thread is that one could predict accurately the people on this forum who would complain about big bad Israel and those who would think their actions predictable/laudable before even reading it.

:confused::confused: I would say it was predictable that Israel was going to officially invade Gaza at one point but I definitely don't think that they are in the right.
 
The interesting thing about this thread is that one could predict accurately the people on this forum who would complain about big bad Israel and those who would think their actions predictable/laudable before even reading it.

People have their convictions and beliefs, all credit to them for sticking to them, whether people are correct or not it's what makes this forum thrive and makes life interesting. I'm not ashamed of my opinions and beliefs as I'm sure others aren't about theirs, else why would they air them? Irrespective of the fact this is a public forum, generally most people behave on here as they would in person.
 
:confused::confused: I would say it was predictable that Israel was going to officially invade Gaza at one point but I definitely don't think that they are in the right.

Should have said OR Mike, didn't really mean to suggest that "predict" and "laud" went hand in hand, my mistake.

People have their convictions and beliefs, all credit to them for sticking to them, whether people are correct or not it's what makes this forum thrive and makes life interesting. I'm not ashamed of my opinions and beliefs as I'm sure others aren't about theirs, else why would they air them? Irrespective of the fact this is a public forum, generally most people behave on here as they would in person.

I think they air their opinions to promote themselves a certain way. I know some people who are total jerks in person, wouldn't spit on you if you were burning, yet they're up in arms against the tyrannical "Zionists" and boohoo like it's going out of fashion for the poor Palestinians.

They do nothing about it, they work no overtime to send money over, just feel the warm glow from knowing that they're a good person. I rarely take people seriously who feel the need to vocalise their own good nature.
 
I'm sure some are like that, but there's nothing wrong with airing an opinion even if it is a little empty, if anything it gets others thinking, or re-affirms that that opinion is still what they believe.

If you believe in something you don't necessarily have to send it money - just as I'm sure people are saddened by things in this world/life don't necessarily start to alter their lives for it, but even being aware of it may help them base certain certain decisions sub consciously because of it.

I do not think it is hypocritical at all, do you rally support for everything you believe in, send money to all those causes, alter your life specifically for everything?

Yes I'm sure there are people who post just for reactions, but a lot do not and as such why I whether I disagree or not, try to respect the opinion and remain as objective in a very subjective topic (or topics in general).
 
To add to what Freefaller has said, by supporting a cause and giving people your opinions on it, if you can raise awareness and consequently help push the government into taking action (or any responsible party), then you've succeeded to some extent.
 
To add to what Freefaller has said, by supporting a cause and giving people your opinions on it, if you can raise awareness and consequently help push the government into taking action (or any responsible party), then you've succeeded to some extent.

Well that's true.

Sadly, the vocal majority are almost always completely wrong. Public opinion is so fickle!
 
Devilish, sliver, scorza are staunch zionists, why bother even arguing with them.

they probably believe all of the teachings of the Talmud. I will just leave a few here:

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."

- Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b



"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew."

- Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30



"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form."

- Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855



"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."

- Coschen hamischpat 405



"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."

- Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b



"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."

- Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b



"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."

- Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b



"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."

- Jore dea 377, 1



"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."

- Talmud Sanhedrin 74b



"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."

- Sepher ikkarim III c 25



"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."

- Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5



"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."

- Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b



"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."

- Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
 
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Devilish, sliver, scorza are staunch zionists, why bother even arguing with them.

So that would make you a staunch anti-semite then. How marvellous to be able to see the world in black and white and not worry about the facts.

Edit - lol thanks for proving the point. I couldnt find anything like that in the Quran or the Bible so you must be right. Ironically, that just goes to show you've read more of that book than I have... you'd make a better jew than I would!
 
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Devilish, sliver, scorza are staunch zionists, why bother even arguing with them.

I can't speak for other guys, but I'm not a staunch Zionist. I simply side with Israel in this conflict. I can criticise Israel too when I'm talking to rational intelligent people, but with posters like zoomoid, why bother, because criticising Israel is literally all he does, so why should I help him out. I'm much happier holding a mirror up to his anti semitic views and simply throwing back at him the hatred he throws at me and others who express support for Israel.
 
So that would make you a staunch anti-semite then. How marvellous to be able to see the world in black and white and not worry about the facts.

Edit - lol thanks for proving the point. I couldnt find anything like that in the Quran or the Bible so you must be right. Ironically, that just goes to show you've read more of that book than I have... you'd make a better jew than I would!

Are you denying that you are a zionist?

I really couldn't care less if you brand me an antisemite for being completely against zionism. I think you may have a harder time branding these guys anti semitic though: ;)

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I'd love to contribute but don't know enough about the situation to comment. I've tried to read all the comments from both sides of the argument what a pity that us human beings who are supposedly intelligent can't get over the need to create groups of people and kill other groups of people over land that if managed properly could feed and sustain them all.
 
It's horrible how many of our MPs are in the Conservative Friends of Israel. If you go on their home page, the banner is a bloody picture of David Cameron!



These guys are dicks, honestly. I can't believe they're trying to compare us with them. If you replace the IDF with Hamas, then you get the right sort of message.

palaestine should release a photo of warsaw with the words "would you accept your fate?"
lets face it gaza is no different than the ghettos the nazi party created when they didn't know what to do with the jews.
 
It's a silent majority, vocal minority. The majority are generally indifferent or content with status quo.

With regards Israel/Palestine specifically, the 'free palestine' or palestine solidarity movements may raise public awareness but have little to no traction when it comes to foreign policy. Unless a government feels its going to start costing them considerable # votes you're just getting lip service.
 
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