***The Official Battlefield 4 Thread***

by learning to fly. Only way to do it.

Best tip I can give you is to fly the attack jet, and pick on easy targets like the AC130 and boats on water maps.

If you have a decent jet pilot on the other team however, you'll be toast. Just have to try and find a game where the other jet pilot as equally as bad and just leaves you alone.
 
To be fair the flying part I can do fine, I don't even crash anymore :D

But flying AND shooting things is the problem. Theres only so much I can learn in the firing range so for a while I am going to be a hinderence to any team I join :(
 
Just play on the Air Superiority game mode. You get more than enough time to get the kills on there. So many other jets flying around - half of them on fire etc so if you're not that good you can still pick up plenty kills each round.

I'm pretty good in that mode, but not very good at shooting land vehicles or infantry in a jet in a normal game.
 
best tip I can give is stick to the official dive servers and stick to the vanilla maps

All the die hard good battlefield players tend to flock to the new maps when new DLC comes out.

Vanilla maps are usually happy hunting around new DLC time. Obviously its not a rule set in stone, more of a general trend so try other servers if you end up with a pilot god on the opposite team. Or maybe if your team has no jet pilots except you, maybe try swapping teams ? thats a tactic i've used before to good effect.

blitzwing85 said:
Just play on the Air Superiority game mode. You get more than enough time to get the kills on there. So many other jets flying around - half of them on fire etc so if you're not that good you can still pick up plenty kills each round.

I'm pretty good in that mode, but not very good at shooting land vehicles or infantry in a jet in a normal game.
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I found complete the opposite. Most of my time in air superiority was spent chasing other jets and not getting any kills.
 
I'd agree with you about that, I joined a server on Saturday for the DLC and got smashed, then I tried a vanilla server and had a much better time of actually being able to kill something.
 
Fr0dders said:
You forget you're usually in some form of armored vehicle and therefore have a luxury of protection afforded to you.

Tanks and IFVs would just be too op if they not only had armor taking at least 2 or more RPGs to take down, a primary turret with at least 2 different shell types, and also a secondary gunner with a 360 degree field of view who can one or two shot you.

Its the infantrymans only chance to sneak up behind, push through the secondary gunner fire and try and get C4 on the thing.
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If you're stupid enough to try and sneak up on a tank to try and plant C4 then you it should be your own fault if you get killed. The game shouldn't have a mechanic that allows people to do such a thing! As in real life the primary means to take out a tank should be a launcher.
 
If it was balanced to be more realistic, the minigun and 50.cal would kill players in one or two hits AND one RPG rocket would destroy a vehicle. I can see that would be highly frustrating mind! :)
 
biron_w said:
If you're stupid enough to try and sneak up on a tank to try and plant C4 then you it should be your own fault if you get killed. The game shouldn't have a mechanic that allows people to do such a thing! As in real life the primary means to take out a tank should be a launcher.
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I'm firmly with DICE that it most certainly should.

Battlefield 4 has always been a case of rock paper scissors. And the Tank is the Rock that can't be cut by the player scissors but can by covered by the players paper (ie C4)

The counter to that weakness as a tank driver is 1) not to stand still and 2) don't drive in densely populated areas and know when to pull back and pillar.

By enabling the secondary gunner to one shot people it makes that almost impossible. Its not realistic, but its done in the interests of balance.

You only think its unfair if you're the one in the driver seat and can't kill people.

For the record, I have no issue with the secondary gun and can kill people just fine with it. Does it one shot people ? No, but its not an issue. Its strength is that the thing has hardly any bullet drop and can hit people reliably from across the map.
 
Captain Planet said:
If it was balanced to be more realistic, the minigun and 50.cal would kill players in one or two hits AND one RPG rocket would destroy a vehicle. I can see that would be highly frustrating mind! :)
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This may well be why there are no Challanger II tanks in-game. The only one ever lost in battle was due to friendly fire. Would be a bit OP.
 
Fr0dders said:
By enabling the secondary gunner to one shot people it makes that almost impossible.
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Woah there! I never said it should be able to one shot people. What I said is that it should take a lot less bullets than it does now. A handheld gun shouldn't be able to kill quicker yet they do.
 
Fr0dders said:
I found complete the opposite. Most of my time in air superiority was spent chasing other jets and not getting any kills.
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Fair enough, maybe I'm a lot better at that mode than I thought as I get tonnes of kills there. Same trick works on 90% of players and kills them in 1 burst. When they arch up, do the same while pulling the break - shooting their roof/cockpit area kills them instantly.

People just keep doing that to escape so it's easy pickings!!!
 
biron_w said:
Woah there! I never said it should be able to one shot people. What I said is that it should take a lot less bullets than it does now. A handheld gun shouldn't be able to kill quicker yet they do.
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how many bullets do you want it to kill in ? its already a min 25 damage so a 4 bullet kill ?
 
Fr0dders said:
how many bullets do you want it to kill in ? its already a min 25 damage so a 4 bullet kill ?
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I have never killed somebody in 4 bullets when in a vehicle. I can empty the full round/clip/whatever-it-is at people and still not get a kill, even though I get a load of hit markers. That's what annoys me. Even on a server where I have no problems killing with my gun, I have massive problems killing people with a vehicle mounted gun. And it's not just me that has this problem.
 
the issue isn't that the gun is too weak as it can kill in 4 bullets. The stats don't lie.

The issue with the coaxial HMG is the recoil and kick and slow rate of fire. You just need to learn how to handle it. It works best if you micro burst it.
 
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