UK Filters And The Slippery Slope Of Mass Censorship

Tefal said:
what the isps are pushing for is it ending at opt out rather than compusorly which is where the government would b e hapopy leaving it too but they need to be seen as protecting the children!
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It's exactly perfect for the government. Makes it look as if they are "doing something", but there's no useful effect. Business as usual.
 
kitfit1 said:
My ISP is Zen and they were never part of this censorship in the first place. There are lots of small to medium ISP's that never signed up to this. By the looks of the "take up" on the major ISP's, it was the right decision.
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Good to know, I was literally just about to google for zen's policies as I am switching to them after adsl24 got bought out by coms and noticed my ping has doubled along with the hops my connection goes through.
 
spoffle said:
Oh lawd, I don't even know why the government bothers.
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What gets me is how ignorant the policy makers are - just quoting verbatim from what the minority is feeding them in the hope their ideology gets them votes. Same as with the media cartels. It's as if the people in power can't be bothered to do any of their own research, and just believe what they are told by whoever shouts the loudest.

I predicted this dire failure, because the vast majority of people do not like the idea of being told what they can and can't see/read/think. And the technology just doesn't work, both failing to block what it should and blocking where it shouldn't.

Really, the only solution is for parent to... you know, do some parenting. You have kids, you look after them. Parents are the ones that have to draw the lines, because even if you know what you are doing and set your router DNS and install network security software, you'll ban the likes of sex.com, or Redtube, but not the soft core stuff that is all over the likes of the Daily Mail or many other non-blocked mainstream sites.
 
Steampunk said:
But it shows the politicians that despite what a vocal minority say, filtering is not what the majority of people want. [..]
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Filtering is what the majority of people with power want, which is why it's happening and will continue to increase. They don't care that it doesn't do what they claim it does or what they claim its purpose is because they've either deluded or lying about what they want it to do.
 
For all I care they can carry on filtering none of it currently affects me. I do think some stupid things have been caught in the ban like sex ed, gay/lesbian sites. I can't help but wonder when it will turn into mandatory blocking rather than opt out.
 
kitfit1 said:
My ISP is Zen and they were never part of this censorship in the first place. There are lots of small to medium ISP's that never signed up to this. By the looks of the "take up" on the major ISP's, it was the right decision.
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Ditto. They're too small for most people to have even heard of, and they stay out of it. Showing yet again the truth of "Cheap, Fast, Good - pick any two".
 
Steampunk said:
But it shows the politicians that despite what a vocal minority say, filtering is not what the majority of people want. Combined with the technical problems (such as 20 percent of the world's top 100,000 sites being incorrectly blocked), and the ease with which it can be circumvented, the ISPs won't go for mandatory blocking.
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but the majority of people either don't vote or vote for the same people every year.

it's only the vocal minorities that actually change their votes based on what thew parties agree to do.

that is why the vocal minorities are the only one s who get listened to because they're the only ones who react top changes.
 
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