Can God make mistakes? How many 'likes' will it take for him to back down?

Lightnix said:
Well exactly, but if we saw ghosts and had true, repeatable, documented evidence of them then there is a good chance we could start to study them, find out how they could be controlled and find out how they work. At that point we would just integrate our knowledge of them into our framework of natural science.
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Ok. I'm willing to tentatively agree to that a bit. :D

I've just realised I'm talking ghosts to strangers on the internet at midnight. I need to get out more. Good night all.
 
Castiel said:
There is a few on this forum who pretty with say it outright or imply it by the use of terms such as skypixies and fictional characters etc etc....
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but that would often be mocking specific instances/interpretations of gods rather than some undefined philosophical concept
 
dowie said:
but that would often be mocking specific instances/interpretations of gods rather than some undefined philosophical concept
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Pretty much its applied to any mention of God, Gods or anything resembling A God. It rarely matters what the specifics are.

tbyeah said:
Well in my mind he is most likely fictional. I don't know though despite being that way inclined.
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I neither believe nor disbelieve. The concept itself has no definitive premise with which to make a judgement on whether it is fictional or not, although by definition God isn't fictional, simply unproven as fictional implies that the concept has been intentionally invented for an imaginative narrative...and while some people will make such accusations at various scripture, there is a distinct difference between scripture and prose.
 
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I think this thread had some potential, it's certainly the furthest I've seen an OCUK GD thread go in terms of interesting discussion, in a long time. Thanks go out to the OP.
 
FoxEye said:
It doesn't make sense either way.

If you believe in God you believe he has always existed, and had no beginning. This is a very difficult concept to comprehend.

If you don't believe in God/creation, then you also have an impossible task. You have to explain how matter/energy always existed.

Where did God come from?
Where did matter/energy come from?

Two unanswerable questions, surely.
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You're missing a possibility that a theist shies away from so strongly that they feel that they must make up anything to avoid it. The inability to acknowledge this possibility is what I think is the most likely explanation for the existence of religion.

You can say "I don't know".

There is an areligious explanation for how matter/energy always existed - time is a part of the universe and not something separate from it.

Is that the true explanation? I don't know. I don't feel a need to make something up so I can avoid acknowledging that I don't know everything.
 
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