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Yeah, you will need to double the wraps at least to get it to fire on a Vamo. Certainly over 1 ohm but probably 1.2 - 1.3 would be better.

Or spend £20 on a half decent mech mod and get that coil working to its full potential.
 
xs2man said:
Yeah, you will need to double the wraps at least to get it to fire on a Vamo. Certainly over 1 ohm but probably 1.2 - 1.3 would be better.

Or spend £20 on a half decent mech mod and get that coil working to its full potential.
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Cool, time to go shopping then :p Any recommendations?
 
Nemesis, Stingray etc... Take your pick.

Do you want it quick or can you wait? i.e. China (cheap) or UK (fast)?

I recently got this, and I love it. The switch does need some working though as it's a little crunchy out the box : http://www.1stopmodshop.co.uk/index.php/mech/black-stingray-clone-infinite/62-infblacksr

Nemesis is cheaper, looks good, easy to use, and the switch works in the stingray above ;) : http://www.1stopmodshop.co.uk/index.php/mech/nemesis/48-nemesis

Turtleship is another nice looking mod : http://www.1stopmodshop.co.uk/index.php/mech/tsv3

Or, you can pick them up from Fasttech. Will no doubt be cheaper. Do your research in the comments / discussions though to find thich is the best one they have. I recently ordered a brass GP Paps : https://www.fasttech.com/p/1718002

Meant to have an excellent button on it, and to be honest, that's half the battle. Pretty much all the review put this as one of the best mods on FT at the moment. And you get 3 tubes, one for each battery size, for a little over a tenner delivered. But currently 7 day wait before shipping, and that can often take another fortnight. China post is supposedly the fastest shipping option at the moment. I ordered mine on Friday, and just tracked it there, and it's at Heathrow already. This could be the single fastest China delivery I've ever had...

Or go second hand? Cheap and quick. But also HUGE : http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboar...-hades-3000mah-battery?page=1&scrollTo=752220
 
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Ha ha. Nah, you can vape whatever you want, it's fine. I just find better flavour when I'm getting more power through the thing (well volts really).

For example, my kayfun is currently rocking a 1.3 ohm build, and I'm vaping between 12-15 watts. So this is between 4 - 4.3 volts. I just find this is the sweet spot for this build. But if you prefer your vape at 10 watts, then that's fine.

For reference though, your 0.6 ohm build, on a mech with a freshly charged battery, will be kicking out over 35 watts at 4.2 volts. Which is beautiful in a dripper. But I doubt it would actually feel like too much if you were to try it either. Your battery would be LONG past it's best (read: recharging point) to get down to 10 watts on a mech.

So, in my, albeit limited experience, I would suggest a higher resistance build. My Kayfun was pants with a 0.5 ohm build in it, and REALLY came alive with a 1.3 ohm build. My Fogger rocks a 1.3 Ohm build also. I prefer builds around 1 - 1.4 ohms in tanks, and lower in drippers on mechs.

My lowest dripper was at 0.15 ohm, which is 117 watts. And it was sick as ****...
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Thanks xs, I've a fogger 4.1 in the post which I traded for my recent squape purchase, will try a 1.1 - 1.4 ohm build in there using the same juice and compare them, I'm already satisfied witht the flavour the .6 build gives me, but if that can be improved then I'm all for it!

117watts, that's nuts!! ;) I saw a 400W build somewhere (possibly this thread) a while back which was essentially a bunch of stacked batteries, looked crazy!
 
Ahhhhh. Stacked batteries, yeah... That coil on stacked batteries would give nearly 450 watts.

117 watts is nuts, but it's not unpleasant or anything. Short little puffs of low nic, high VG juices, and you REALLY are just chucking clouds.

The 4 drippers I am currently rotating are 0.27 ohm (65 watts on full battery), 0.47 (37.5 watts), 0.17 (103 watts) and 0.92 (19 watts). Some are obviously more nuts than others.

But then my tanks are all around 1.3 ohms, and they are great too.
 
Just had a moment of madness and splurged on a stingray x and a kayfun plus.

I've never made my own coils and have a vision spinner n protank 2.

I bought some GVC today so I thought I better get a decent mod. What battery do people recommend and where from? New to this.

Thanks.
 
Sony VTC 4 or 5's would be the best batteries to get, as they have a high 30A current limit (although that's continuous, they are apparently safe to 60A for less than 5 seconds, but wouldn't push the boat too far).

You can get them from Torchy on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/big_f_d_d...ics_Batteries_SM&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 Although he doesn't seem to have any on there just now.

But I would get them from him direct, via UK Vapers : http://ukvapers.org/Thread-Torchy-battery-prices for £11.99 a pair delivered.

You will need a charger too. The Nitecore i4 is excellent, and around £20 direct from Torchy. The D4 is even nicer, with a big digital display giving you lots of information. But it's pretty expensive unless you get from Fasttech for about £20 too. Make sure you use China Post though for the quickest current delivery.
 
Just adding to say I agree with the above. I'd say you are likely okay with any of Torchy's batteries but I don't know how sub ohm you plan to go. Over specing isn't a bad idea as they don't cost that much more and can deal with bigger draws on them.

You are also going to need something that reads ohmage and checks for shorts. You don't want to put something untested on a mech mod. If yo happen to buy a charger from fasttech they also sell ohm testers. It doubles as a stand to build on. You can also use a multimeter but it isn't as easy as screwing it into a ohm reader.
 
Thanks for the info, this is gonna get expensive :)

Can you just build a standard coil for just a normal vape to begin with?

Reason I ask is I'm new to this so wanna start off slow and learn all the sub ohm stuff as I go. Haven't got a clue at the moment but I pick up stuff like this pretty easy.

Why can't use put a coil without testing (rough guesstimate) will it blown up or something lol.

Edit: forgot to ask, can you not just use any charger? I got one for my mouse batteries.
 
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You can. If you're confident it wont short. But it is better being safe when dealing with potentially explosive batteries.

Yeah, you don't need to sub ohm. 8-10 wraps of 0.3 kanthal wire microcoiled should keep you above 1 ohm fairly easily. I can't actually remember the wraps in my KFL just now.

You can use thinner wire to increase the resistance, or thicker wire to decrease resistance. And when you get more confident, you can try different coils, like twisted or parallel to reduce resistance in thinner wire. I have a dual coil build with twisted 0.5 wire in my Tobh knocking out 0.17 Ohm. That's wildly sub ohm though.
 
xs2man said:
You can. If you're confident it wont short. But it is better being safe when dealing with potentially explosive batteries.

Yeah, you don't need to sub ohm. 8-10 wraps of 0.3 kanthal wire microcoiled should keep you above 1 ohm fairly easily. I can't actually remember the wraps in my KFL just now.

You can use thinner wire to increase the resistance, or thicker wire to decrease resistance. And when you get more confident, you can try different coils, like twisted or parallel to reduce resistance in thinner wire. I have a dual coil build with twisted 0.5 wire in my Tobh knocking out 0.17 Ohm. That's wildly sub ohm though.
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Nice one, that's chilled me out abit.

I was worried for a moment that I wouldn't be able to use it until I got to grips with all the fiddly and sub ohm stuff.

So is sub ohm-ing when you go below 1ohm then?

I actually did electrical inst at college so I should know some of this haha. That was years ago though and I've had a drink since then.

Can't wait to get googling and learn all the stuff so I can start messing with it.

I just want a good vape as this vision spinner/pro tank is always too harsh and hardly any vape compared too what I've seen with these.
 
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So just a V1 then? Not V2, 2.5 or v3? Are they 22mm or 23mm?

SX chip would be what you want for proper regulated sub-ohming. The DNA is fine, but at it's lowest resistance build it will fire, at it's highest wattage, it's still only firing 3.87 volts, so in a mech, your battery would be more than halfway dead. If you get what I mean.

At least the SX can hit 50w (the v3 330 chip is now doing 100w), or you can bypass the circuit, although you are still limited to the 0.2 ohm coil by the safety circuit.
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Ahh wasn't sure what you meant. It is a paps 2.5 silver brushed I got pics I can show if anyone's interested. I might get myself a ipv from m vapes I need to sell this paps for 55 to make it happen tho :0.
 
redrooster303 said:
Thanks for the info, this is gonna get expensive :)

Can you just build a standard coil for just a normal vape to begin with?

Reason I ask is I'm new to this so wanna start off slow and learn all the sub ohm stuff as I go. Haven't got a clue at the moment but I pick up stuff like this pretty easy.

Why can't use put a coil without testing (rough guesstimate) will it blown up or something lol.

Edit: forgot to ask, can you not just use any charger? I got one for my mouse batteries.
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Get an Ohm meter! :)

If you have a VV/VW mod then they have one built in so its not so much of an issue. But tbh for the cost of them its well worth having one.

It may seem expensive to begin with, but providing you dont go buying mods left and right the actual 'running costs' are sod all, build a decent microcoil and it will last ages, just needing to replace the cotton every few tanks or so when it starts to taste crap, once you've done that a few times you'll be doing it in minutes. :)

Juice, wick and wire. The last two will last for ever if you get a decent about.

Speaking of....

Wick:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Simply-Gent...06622851&sr=8-1&keywords=organic+cotton+balls
(or the same from ASDA, etc. Organic balls or pleat are what you want.)

Wire:
http://www.stealthvape.co.uk/rebuildable-supplies/kanthal-sample-pack or http://www.vape-atomizer-mesh.com/products/Kanthal-A1-Heat-Resistance-Wire.html

Ohm Meter if you cant wait for the China boat. :)
http://www.vapegeek.co.uk/Ohm-meter-by-Hcigar-66.htm or http://www.m-vapes.co.uk/store/p74/Resistance_Ohm_meter_checker_battery_powered.html


Good vid on microcoils - http://youtu.be/cKIJFkOddts
 
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I'm using that cotton. Couldn't find organic in Asda, but been using Asda cotton for months anyway. Also using Rayon for wick.

Tried lots of different wire, but got 50m of 0.30 & 0.32 as well as 25m 0.5 and 0.23. from vape mesh company above.

Once you are set up with all this, you will find it very cheap going forward.
 
My paps ^_^

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