Ex wife Financial claim after she remarries ?

Haggisman said:
Correlation != causation ;)
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Indeed
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Haggisman said:
Correlation != causation ;)
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I love it when people bandy this around on factors which are interlinked. There is a big difference between something that has no interaction and saying that and then saying it towards two things that have a direct relationship. To use it in the latter is misapplying it.
 
Castiel said:
I do not know what sort of marriages you lot have been or are in, or even if you've been in one at all (or a relationship for that matter). But the descriptions you are giving bear no relationship whatsoever to my marriage which has been the best years of my life and continues to be.
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Exactly. Also, the stability of our marriage has had a very positive impact on our son and how he runs his life life as a young adult.

But no, marriage is evil and them women just steal all you things...
 
Xordium said:
I love it when people bandy this around on factors which are interlinked. There is a big difference between something that has no interaction and saying that and then saying it towards two things that have a direct relationship. To use it in the latter is misapplying it.
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I never said they weren't interlinked, however just because they are linked, does not mean they are causative of each other.

It doesn't take a genius to realise that "being good for kids" and "getting married" are both symptoms of a stable and healthy relationship, rather than one being causative of the other.

LordSplodge said:
Exactly. Also, the stability of our marriage has had a very positive impact on our son and how he runs his life life as a young adult.
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Except it's not the stability of your marriage, it's the stability of your relationship, your marriage is just a piece of paper which shows that the stability of your relationship is recognised by the state.

A child isn't suddenly going to have a fantastic upbringing just because his mum and dad decided to sign a piece of paper, in exactly the same way as a child isn't going to have a terrible upbringing because they didn't.
 
Haggisman said:
Except it's not the stability of your marriage, it's the stability of your relationship, your marriage is just a piece of paper which shows that the stability of your relationship is recognised by the state.

A child isn't suddenly going to have a fantastic upbringing just because his mum and dad decided to sign a piece of paper, in exactly the same way as a child isn't going to have a terrible upbringing because they didn't.
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I'm glad you understand my relationship and how it has shaped me, my wife and our son. Oh hang on, you don't. You also have assumed that our marriage is just because it is makes our relationship recognised by the state.

Plenty of unmarked couples raise kids well, plenty of married couples don't. However studies have found that a stable loving environment where the parents are married is better for the children than the same unmarried couple.
 
LordSplodge said:
I'm glad you understand my relationship and how it has shaped me, my wife and our son. Oh hang on, you don't. You also have assumed that our marriage is just because it is makes our relationship recognised by the state.

Plenty of unmarked couples raise kids well, plenty of married couples don't. However studies have found that a stable loving environment where the parents are married is better for the children than the same unmarried couple.
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Unless they've found a way of creating parallel dimensions, those studies are impossible.

But it's good that your experience has been a pleasant one. :)
 
I don't see how "marriage" over a stable relationship is any different unless the children are raised extremely religiously.

how does a marriage have a better impact on the childs life when a stable relationship is exactly the same thing without a bit of paper and a wedding ring.

I don't see how anything is done any different
 
arknor said:
I don't see how "marriage" over a stable relationship is any different unless the children are raised extremely religiously.

how does a marriage have a better impact on the childs life when a stable relationship is exactly the same thing without a bit of paper and a wedding ring.

I don't see how anything is done any different
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It doesn't, just statistics will skew it that way.
 
I'd imagine it's because the sort of people who will be in a stable relationship for 20+ years are probably more likely to get married, of course if you aren't married you can have the same relationship. For example if tomorrow through some change in the law your marriage was no longer valid I wouldn't imagine you'd start hating each other :p
 
Xordium said:
I love it when people bandy this around on factors which are interlinked. There is a big difference between something that has no interaction and saying that and then saying it towards two things that have a direct relationship. To use it in the latter is misapplying it.
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I'd be skeptical that it did have much affect if controlling for other factors. Perhaps a high portion of scummy parents happen to fall into the unmarried category... there doesn't have to be a causal link here... taking two sets of parents, stable professional jobs, stable relationship, live in the suburbs etc.. etc.. does one set having had a ceremony/signed some paperwork really have a beneficial effect on the kids?
 
Cosimo said:
She loves anything that keeps me quiet. :D
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Mines the same :p

In all honesty though you get out of marriage what you put in and if you have the "mine, mine, mine" attitude of some posters in here don't be shocked if it fails as you clearly can't be that committed if you're main thought is the division of mine and hers.
 
Haggisman said:
Except it's not the stability of your marriage, it's the stability of your relationship, your marriage is just a piece of paper which shows that the stability of your relationship is recognised by the state.

A child isn't suddenly going to have a fantastic upbringing just because his mum and dad decided to sign a piece of paper, in exactly the same way as a child isn't going to have a terrible upbringing because they didn't.
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yup:

www.ifs.org.uk/comms/comm114.pdf

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Conclusions
• There is a vigorous academic and political debate about the benefits of marriage, which has partly
focused on whether encouraging parents to formally marry, rather than to cohabit, will provide a
better environment for children.
• We have shown that the children of married parents do better than the children of cohabiting
parents in a number of dimensions, particularly on measures of social and emotional development at
the ages of 3 and 5.
• But we have also shown that parents who are married differ from those who are cohabiting in very
substantial ways, particularly relating to their ethnicity, education and socio-economic status, and
their history of relationship stability and the quality of their relationship even when the child is at a
very young age. Once we take these factors into account, there are no longer any statistically
significant differences in these child outcomes between children of married and cohabiting parents.
Cohabitation, marriage and child outcomes
• What is the policy significance of these findings? Our own work cannot conclusively determine
whether a causal marriage effect exists.
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statistically there likely isn't a link... there is however plenty of lazy reporting by newspaper journalists - some of whom (daily mail) actually quoted the above study as evidence in favour of marriage having a beneficial effect
 
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