Robin Williams found dead at home

Interesting view from Mara Wilson. If thats true. Though I can understand why. Seems Hollywood has to devalue good films rather than come up with something new and original. It always has to be quick and easy money. Everything these days feels like reboots, remakes in some form or milking sequels.

However, Mara Wilson, who played the youngest daughter Natalie, was not set to join the sequel. "For the record, no, I do not have anything to do with the Mrs. Doubtfire sequel, nor will I," she had tweeted. "I've been in some mediocre movies, but I've never been in a sequel. And I have no interest in being in one now. Sequels generally suck unless they were planned as part of a trilogy or series. I think Doubtfire ended where it needed to end. I'm glad I had the chance to be in it, and I'm proud of what we did, but I don't see how we could do it again. There are many, many reasons I don't want to be in Mrs. Doubtfire 2. But they haven't even asked me [yet], so no need to worry."

Due to the tragic sudden death of Robin Williams, the future of 'Mrs Doubtfire 2' looks dim.
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FortuitousFluke said:
Is it not selfish to expect somebody to continue living in circumstances which they find intolerable because their death would have an adverse impact on you? How vain does a person need to be to believe that they have a right to insist on suffering for their benefit, or that they have any any moral claim to dictate when a person is allowed to die on their own terms?

If it is deplorable to some to end a life when the ending causes suffering, why is it not equally deplorable to extend one in the same circumstances?
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This, the whole selfish thing AND the people insisting someone who commits suicide is so beyond thinking clearly , both sets of people wind me up.

Firstly as you say, if a member of my family was horrendously unhappy and lived every single day in pain. Wanting them to stay alive and be in pain to make myself feel better is the height of selfishness. I wouldn't, I'd be happy that someone's pain was at rest. Obviously I don't think killing yourself the second you feel a little pain is warranted but for many people life isn't perfect, or even good, but it's awful and for a variety of reasons they may have no chance to get better.

If someone has been depressed for 20-30 years, gets to the age of 63, where the body starts to slow down, where you simply can't do what you used to and you don't have lots of time and you have many more not great things coming(general ill health as you get older, losing work, losing friends/family, etc) then faced with years of worsening situation from a bad state already, it's rather odd that we as humans actually view it as the "right" thing to stick it out and just be unhappy and in pain. Same arguments with terminal patients being helped to die, the idiots who are against it and think fighting to live when there is only pain and no hope is somehow a good thing.

Not everyone can recover from depression, not everyone has positive things in their lives. Some people are depressed but have a good job, or are already rich, or own their house or have family already. Other people are depressed but have a chronic or maybe genetic/terminal illness like parkinsons. Not everyone has a reason or a future that will allow someone to get better.

I don't know what Robin's reasons were, but they were his own and I won't judge them and I certainly won't ignorantly call him selfish. I'll say I'm sad he felt like that, and hope he made the right choice and it wasn't just one exceptionally bad day he failed to get through.
 
wow lots on here need to give themselves a good shake about life on what problems can arise and how we deal with really bad situations, it is not selfish get this into your thick heads of yours, how many times do you need to be told this.:mad:
 
jsmoke said:
How not?

First part was just in the news, this is what is believed to be a contributor to his suicide, second part is my opinion on suicide as people here are saying it's not selfish so I thought I'd add my view.
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It's an ignorant and uninformed view, as long as you realise that.
 
jsmoke said:
How not?

First part was just in the news, this is what is believed to be a contributor to his suicide, second part is my opinion on suicide as people here are saying it's not selfish so I thought I'd add my view.
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lol. the fact you think it's selfish doesn't relate in the slightest to someone taking their own life when feeling like what he felt like knowing something like having parkinsons.
 
twist3d0n3 said:
lol. the fact you think it's selfish doesn't relate in the slightest to someone taking their own life when feeling like what he felt like knowing something like having parkinsons.
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I've seen plenty of people suffer most of their lives through illness, abandonment, depression, et cetera, but they suffered, mainly because they cared about others around them, they didn't focus their views solely on themselves, what did RW's go through that was so dreadful, he had three children, why couldn't he suffer for them.
 
jsmoke said:
I've seen plenty of people suffer most of their lives through illness, abandonment, depression, et cetera, but they suffered, mainly because they cared about others around them, they didn't focus their views solely on themselves, what did RW's go through that was so dreadful, he had three children, why couldn't he suffer for them.
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Three adult children. According to reports he had a history of drug and alcohol abuse and had recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease. While I don't agree with how he committed suicide, I can't begrudge somebody who faced with potentially losing their independence from taking things into their own hands.
 
jsmoke said:
I've seen plenty of people suffer most of their lives through illness, abandonment, depression, et cetera, but they suffered, mainly because they cared about others around them, they didn't focus their views solely on themselves, what did RW's go through that was so dreadful, he had three children, why couldn't he suffer for them.
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I wouldn't want anyone to suffer for me and I think it's very selfish for anyone to want or expect that.
 
I just can't imagine how it must feel inside to seriously consider taking your own life, yet alone actually doing it. Truly horrible. :(
 
jsmoke said:
I've seen plenty of people suffer most of their lives through illness, abandonment, depression, et cetera, but they suffered, mainly because they cared about others around them, they didn't focus their views solely on themselves, what did RW's go through that was so dreadful, he had three children, why couldn't he suffer for them.
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How old are you, 11?
 
You have to be all kinds of naive to think suicide is selfish. The whole ordeal has been far the most upsetting in terms of celebrity deaths in the past few years . Genuinely funny man and I doubt there was a bad bone in his body. The fact he'd been diagnosed with Parkinson's makes it all the more tragic. If you've ever suffered or know people who have suffered with depression, which most people likely have, you'd understand that if like him you'd been battling through it only to be told that is so life changing. Even to someone who isn't already clinically depressed.

The rational thoughts like it maybe being selfish don't come into play when someone is chronic. It's a very dark place and I doubt few including myself could understand it. If you honestly think it's selfish you haven't seen how bad it can get, or how good people become at hiding it.
 
It's clear from their reaction that Robin Williams loved his kids very much. Instead of calling him selfish, why not think about how tragic it is that someone would feel so low as to take their own life despite that? It's incomprehensible. Trying to paint it as an easy choice is pathetic, imagine the thoughts that would go through someone's head in their final minutes. :(
 
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