Cliff Richard - Sexual Abuse Claims

Dimple said:
I hate Cliff Richard with a passion but I don't accept this one.
Not once (up until now) has there ever been a story in the Sunday papers about him and secret lovers
Back in the late 70s I had two family members who both had colostomy bags and both were given 'soothing' literature with a list of famous people with colostomy bags including the Queen Mother and Cliff Richard so this is the reason why I think he became celebate.

On a side note when the Rolling Stones started, Keith Richards was asked by his management to change his name to Richard to tally up with the success of Cliff but when the Stones became famous he changed it back. I'm pretty sure the first albums name him as Keith Richard.
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Child sex partners don't tend to do kiss&tell stories.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
This is cliff who when i last heard interviewed was asked something about facebook or twitter, and replied, 'oh yes, internet, i dont internet, but i have some people who internet for me' or similar. Clearly without half a clue of modern telecommunications.

Can someone please tell me what the police could be looking for in relation to a potapential crime in 1981 by searching his home now? Surely it is fishing for other offences, as in downloading style offences? Can it possibly be anything else, and one would think if cliff has know about such allegations for months, then he would be computerwise squeaky clean?
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It is quite unusual why an historical allegation would prompt a full-house sweep *without* an arrest being made either directly or via Interpol.

You are probably right that they are trying to get a gauge on his private life from articles present in his home/s. Oh, and ignorance of the internet isn't a defence for anything. A person with a fear/hatred/zero-awareness of the internet could still be in possession of other forms of indecent material - videos (VHS, Optical, Cine etc), photographs, or even things like Japanese Hentai or 'erotic literature' allow the formation of a personality in the eyes of investigators.

That is direct evidence, however what if the historical allegation 'victim' depicted a specific room, or 'apparatus', or furniture which could add a little more weight to their story?

All in all though, stuff like this shouldn't be broadcast unless prosecution is going to occur; it is very damning for the potential defendant and could well sway public opinion and ruin a career/life even if totally innocent.
 
Why are the media allowed to publish this? I read that a BBC news crew were at his house before the Police even arrived.
 
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I thought the law was that the police told the media/press IF a person was going to court, now it seems you can end up in the paper even if nothing has been proven.

Disgusting tbh
 
DJMK4 said:
I am asking basically is this just (false)/(speculation) or has anyone generated any evidence yet?
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The police are duty bound to investigate any claim of criminal wrong doing if they believe there is sufficient reason to do so. At this point in time, their reasons for proceeding with the claim against Cliff Richard have not been made public except to say that someone has made an allegation of sexual abuse with a minor. The investigation is in the evidence gathering phase as we speak. Items have been removed from his property for scrutiny. I would suggest that depending on what the police find will determine where, if any where, this investigation goes next.

If we see Cliff Richard brought back to the UK in the next few days for questioning, then that will be a tell tale sign that something was indeed found at his property imo.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
This is cliff who when i last heard interviewed was asked something about facebook or twitter, and replied, 'oh yes, internet, i dont internet, but i have some people who internet for me' or similar. Clearly without half a clue of modern telecommunications.

Can someone please tell me what the police could be looking for in relation to a potapential crime in 1981 by searching his home now? Surely it is fishing for other offences, as in downloading style offences? Can it possibly be anything else, and one would think if cliff has know about such allegations for months, then he would be computerwise squeaky clean?

Maybe i overthink.

Personally, i would hate to think there is any truth to this, seems strange only one complaint, given the timescale, only one and now. I hope it is another Matthew Kelly affair, and amounts to nothing.
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some people like to keep photos etc it's like they can't help themselves.

surely any more nonces will have destroyed their computers and anything else illegal after the peado gate opened anyway though
 
Harlequin said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stigating-child-abuse-London-hotel-1980s.html


^^ article from 18 months ago


to throw an alternative opinion - Cliff Richard was known as `kitty`.

when will they start going after the MP`s and Royalty.
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I came across this video on YT and initially decided not to post it here because in my opinion it falls into the category of a conspiracy theory video. I'm not a fan of such things. However, reading your post, I'm going to throw this in and let people make up their own minds. Personally, I think it might be fubar, but it might also contain some truths, who knows ?

 
apparently he has a super injunction against naming him in regards to elm guest house ; shame the information is all over the internet....


there's a list though , of about a dozen MP's and policemen linked to the place as well.
 
Kamerad said:
Why are the media allowed to publish this? I read that a BBC news crew were at his house before the Police even arrived.
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They had.
They also seemed to have a helicopter there, they watched the detectives going in, and out, from land and air. They also had camera team at his Portugal residence, and said he wasn't at home today.

This is the most concerning aspect from my POV, do the BBC know something more, as usually they are not ahead of the game in this sensational style of 'we were there when they' events.
 
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