The Bible Banned!
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'Proper' Christians presumably have about fifteen versions of the Bible on their tablets, phones, and Kindles anyway.
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Or maybe they are catching up with the times.
Out of interest what is the proportion of Christians in the UK? After that what is the proportion of practicing Christians (people that actually go to church outside of Christmas and Easter), after that what is the proportion of people in the UK that actually read the bible?!
I'm guessing the proportion of practicing Muslims (largest Muslim country in the world) and Christians in Indonesia is significantly higher than in the UK...
I never understood why they still have them in hotel chains anyway. I'm pretty sure most of the non chain hotels I've stayed in over the years don't have them.
Aren't they put there by the local church groups? I doubt the hotel pay for them.
by the gideon's but the hotel will have to check that they're not defaced/apologize to guests who read them when they are etc.
I'm not ashamed to say this, but every time I have stayed in a hotel with a bible in the room, I have torn out the page with Leviticus 20:10 to 20:13, and taken that page with me and binned it after leaving the hotel.
Just my mini protest against misogynistic homophobic Christians. (Got the idea from Sir Ian Mckellen). Done about 15 so far.
Just my mini protest against misogynistic homophobic Christians. (Got the idea from Sir Ian Mckellen). Done about 15 so far.
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The practice of placing Bibles in British hotel rooms originated with the Commercial Travellers’ Christian Association late in the Victorian era.
The organisation was founded in 1888, with backing from the owners of biscuit manufacturer McVitie’s, and donated bibles to hotels around the country.
In more recent years, the work was taken over by the Gideon Society, which distributes free Bibles in almost 194 countries worldwide.
Members of the Gideon Society, an evangelical Christian organisation founded in the US in 1898, were inspired to give out free Bibles in hotel rooms after visiting Britain and seeing the Commercial Travellers’ Christian Association’s work.
In the UK, the Gideon Society, whose income comes from donations and bequests from wills, still continues this mission – giving out free bibles to large institutions, including hospitals and prisons.
Copies of the New Testament are also presented to school pupils, members of the armed forces, police, ambulance and fire services.
The organisation was founded in 1888, with backing from the owners of biscuit manufacturer McVitie’s, and donated bibles to hotels around the country.
In more recent years, the work was taken over by the Gideon Society, which distributes free Bibles in almost 194 countries worldwide.
Members of the Gideon Society, an evangelical Christian organisation founded in the US in 1898, were inspired to give out free Bibles in hotel rooms after visiting Britain and seeing the Commercial Travellers’ Christian Association’s work.
In the UK, the Gideon Society, whose income comes from donations and bequests from wills, still continues this mission – giving out free bibles to large institutions, including hospitals and prisons.
Copies of the New Testament are also presented to school pupils, members of the armed forces, police, ambulance and fire services.
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Well certainly the practicing Christian % is reasonably high, but the Christian numbers are around 8%, the Muslims tend to practice anywhere they are, I'd say in the UK their practicing amount is actually probably just as high in the UK, but overall numbers are vastly higher.
I don't actually care that the bible has been removed from a room.
It is the hotels reason for doing so that vexes me.
I dispute Britain is more religiously multicultural than it was 10 years ago.
I think it is for other reasons stated, checking rooms, ticking the boxes before guest arrives, saving them replacing lost copies, or defaced copies.
Yet they announce this, and make a big deal of it, to demonstrate how wonderfully forward thinking they are. I disagree.
It isn't the removal it is the gob^%$%ery reason for it.
Wiki says ~60% of people identified as Christian in the 2011 census, but a 2007 report suggested around 26% attend church at least once a year. No idea about Bible reading.
Tefal has hit the proverbial nail on the head, Travelodge's "because of diversity" statement seem to be more of a deflection than the true reason.
It is similar to the way that people use the Health and safety excuse to cover for their / their organisations failings.
It is similar to the way that people use the Health and safety excuse to cover for their / their organisations failings.
I'm not ashamed to say this, but every time I have stayed in a hotel with a bible in the room, I have torn out the page with Leviticus 20:10 to 20:13, and taken that page with me and binned it after leaving the hotel.
Just my mini protest against misogynistic homophobic Christians. (Got the idea from Sir Ian Mckellen). Done about 15 so far.
but Leviticus doesn't apply to anyone who isn't a member of tribe of israel?
and it isn't followed by Christians.
It's a throwaway comment from the press office of a hotel chain, who bloody cares?
but Leviticus doesn't apply to anyone who isn't a member of tribe of israel?
and it isn't followed by Christians.
Haha, shock as 'atheist' makes himself look as silly as a Religious nut.
Exactly. Take out the number that go to a Christmas or Easter service and you have the low millions. I'd guess about 5% "regularly" go to church. The proportion of practicing Christians in Indonesia is probably higher than that even though it is a predominantly Muslim country.
but Leviticus doesn't apply to anyone who isn't a member of tribe of israel?
and it isn't followed by Christians.
Firstly, every Christian bible on earth contains the Old Testament, so it does apply to gentiles. Fundamentalist Christians get their homophobia from Leviticus, so you're wrong about that. Why do you think morons like the westboro baptist church picket funerals with signs that say 'God Hates Fags' ? There is NOTHING in the new testament about being gay being a sin. It comes from the Old Testament. Try reading it.
i am genuinely curious why you think attending church reguarly is a requirement for being Christan.
Indeed. He should do himself a favour and not speak about things of which he is not informed.
It's not a requirement but it's a good indication of a "practicing" christian, which is more likely to be someone that reads the bible.
Being a Christian country most would identify themselves as Christian but not actually practice it.
Either way, it looks like less than 10% of brits actually go to church "regularly" (once a month or more).
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/03/church-attendance-propped-immigrants-study
Edit: Another interesting statistic (although I don't know how reliable). Apparently only two thirds of churchgoers have read the bible in the last year.http://www.citw.org.uk/research.htm
Some very bad maths and that would suggest that about 1 in 20 read the bible in the UK at least once a year... This change will make a massive difference.
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