Volunteering Work

If you're going to have to work for free (volunteering) you might as well do it for a charity and not a regular business.

I did this for the local pdsa shop for 3 months.
I started volunteering before the JC sent me on their 'program'. I was basically fed up of applying for loads of jobs and not hearing back from them (the ones I did get a reply from were along the lines of 'overqualified for the position' etc), so I had to go and do something to get me out of the house to stop me going nuts.

I guess I did something right as they trusted me to take the days takings and pay them into the local bank every week.

It's important to be yourself OP, but you have to temper that with a little bit of a nod to the pecking order. However this does depend on the people you work with and their character; if everyone is fairly close knit then having a bit of a rapport at work might be ok. On the other hand, if everyone is yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir, you have probably shot yourself in the foot if a job offer was seriously in the offering.

But if you're doing this for the jobcentre, then expect to be back in the dole queue when your placement is over. There was never a job for you. You were just being made to conform to the JC's arbitrary bs so they can justify IDS and his work for your benefits policy reforms (a carry over from the labour government... but we'll not get into that hehe).

The only way this might benefit you is that another potential employer might see your willingness to do work for free instead of sitting on your arse all day, despite you being on the dole, as an indicator of 'hmm, this bloke wants to be busy doing something, even when he has no other reason to be busy than his own drive to do something'. If that's the case, in an interview situation you have to make it clear that the idea of volunteering was your idea first and that you did not wait for the JC to push you into action.
A lot of employers see potential employees in a favourable light if they're already working/volunteering/or otherwise engaged with something that requires you to be up and our of the house all day. It conveys the impression of activity and engagement with the world, initiative, if you will.
 
If you're going to have to work for free (volunteering) you might as well do it for a charity and not a regular business.

I did this for the local pdsa shop for 3 months.
I started volunteering before the JC sent me on their 'program'. I was basically fed up of applying for loads of jobs and not hearing back from them (the ones I did get a reply from were along the lines of 'overqualified for the position' etc), so I had to go and do something to get me out of the house to stop me going nuts.

I guess I did something right as they trusted me to take the days takings and pay them into the local bank every week.

It's important to be yourself OP, but you have to temper that with a little bit of a nod to the pecking order. However this does depend on the people you work with and their character; if everyone is fairly close knit then having a bit of a rapport at work might be ok. On the other hand, if everyone is yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir, you have probably shot yourself in the foot if a job offer was seriously in the offering.

But if you're doing this for the jobcentre, then expect to be back in the dole queue when your placement is over. There was never a job for you. You were just being made to conform to the JC's arbitrary bs so they can justify IDS and his work for your benefits policy reforms (a carry over from the labour government... but we'll not get into that hehe).

The only way this might benefit you is that another potential employer might see your willingness to do work for free instead of sitting on your arse all day, despite you being on the dole, as an indicator of 'hmm, this bloke wants to be busy doing something, even when he has no other reason to be busy than his own drive to do something'. If that's the case, in an interview situation you have to make it clear that the idea of volunteering was your idea first and that you did not wait for the JC to push you into action.
A lot of employers see potential employees in a favourable light if they're already working/volunteering/or otherwise engaged with something that requires you to be up and our of the house all day. It conveys the impression of activity and engagement with the world, initiative, if you will.

Very well put.
 
There's no way I'd work for free charity or not, work to live and all that ;)


Oh and "it might lead to a job" it won't thy have some sucker doing it for free, why would they pay you....
 
You screwed up sorting papers and wasted your boss's time doing the incredibly menial job that a volunteer should do, only to make a sarcastic comment when he mentioned it?

=/
 
There's no way I'd work for free charity or not, work to live and all that ;)


Oh and "it might lead to a job" it won't thy have some sucker doing it for free, why would they pay you....

Job centre for you.

It "may" lead to employment, I heard that a lot when I was singing on.

It's utter bullcrapp and companies are just abusing it.
 
And thus actually reducing the amount of paid work available. Genius, IDS, pure genius.

Precisely,

They actually are btw.

I did a stint in a RSPCA charity shop. Guy told me how many workers they had laid off over past 4-6 months since JSA started their scheme there.

I think he said 4-6 paid workers had been laid off if I remember correctly? I thought it was all just a myth that they were sacking people but they have been.

People were not talking **** when they said paid workers are losing out to JSA claimants being forced to work.
 
Precisely,

They actually are btw.

I did a stint in a RSPCA charity shop. Guy told me how many workers they had laid off over past 4-6 months since JSA started their scheme there.

I think he said 4-6 paid workers had been laid off if I remember correctly? I thought it was all just a myth that they were sacking people but they have been.

People were not talking **** when they said paid workers are losing out to JSA claimants being forced to work.

A client of my previous employer got rid of 2-3 people due to be able to fill the positions from people sent from the jobcenter for 2-3 months "work experience" or whatever (and this was almost 10 years back).

The only real positive side to it is that they do atleast have something of a reference to help with finding a proper job :S

EDIT: Probably more than that actually as they had 3 people from the jobcenter there already while I was on site and got rid of the others over the 6 weeks or so I was there.
 
There's no way I'd work for free charity or not, work to live and all that ;)

Spoken like a true Tory. Must be great to be the centre of your own universe. :(

I've done all sorts in my life so far, but my volunteering for AGE UK is one of the most rewarding things I've done. Been doing it for 4 years and see myself continuing till I drop.
 
Spoken like a true Tory. Must be great to be the centre of your own universe. :(

I've done all sorts in my life so far, but my volunteering for AGE UK is one of the most rewarding things I've done. Been doing it for 4 years and see myself continuing till I drop.

If you think I'm anything close to a Tory than no, ask anyone here lol

The only work I'm prepared to do is for money to fund my family and lifestyle, I don't earn ££££ and my time is precious. People should be paid a living wage for work, it isn't slavery, charities can afford £100k+ PA for chief execs they can pay everyone who works for them.
 
If you think I'm anything close to a Tory than no, ask anyone here lol

The only work I'm prepared to do is for money to fund my family and lifestyle, I don't earn ££££ and my time is precious. People should be paid a living wage for work, it isn't slavery, charities can afford £100k+ PA for chief execs they can pay everyone who works for them.

Well glad to hear you're not a Tory, this must mean that at the very least you're somewhat decent. :p

I respect your right to live your life the way you want, if you don't want to volunteer for a charity then I'm not going to hold that against you. You are wrong about charities though when you say they can afford to pay everyone who works for them. At AGE UK where I volunteer, they have a permanent staff of around 30. They have nearly 200 hundred volunteers. During this tory government, thanks to cut backs, AGE UK laid off around 5 of their permanent staff who had all worked for many years. If it wasn't for volunteers like me, they would have to close the doors. They can not afford to pay the people they need to operate as they do. They rely on volunteers to survive.
 
il be blunt sliver, if the branches are run anything like the sally army branch i was in for mandatory work activity then id be having a look at them. as its shocking how some PAID staffers dont have a clue what they are doing.

i made the crackpot suggestion to sell furniture on ebay to widen their area and the manager didnt want to know. and the paid staff just hung about playing on candy crush all day while the volunteers and mandatory workers got stuck in.
 
i made the crackpot suggestion to sell furniture on ebay to widen their area and the manager didnt want to know. and the paid staff just hung about playing on candy crush all day while the volunteers and mandatory workers got stuck in.

Seems to be the way its going these days :| even just a few years ago 75-80% of the new starters (mostly straight out of school) we took on had some kind of work ethic these days its more like 30% and a good number think that they can just mess about, have a laugh, etc. like its something out of a tv show or movies without consequences.
 
Well glad to hear you're not a Tory, this must mean that at the very least you're somewhat decent. :p

I respect your right to live your life the way you want, if you don't want to volunteer for a charity then I'm not going to hold that against you. You are wrong about charities though when you say they can afford to pay everyone who works for them. At AGE UK where I volunteer, they have a permanent staff of around 30. They have nearly 200 hundred volunteers. During this tory government, thanks to cut backs, AGE UK laid off around 5 of their permanent staff who had all worked for many years. If it wasn't for volunteers like me, they would have to close the doors. They can not afford to pay the people they need to operate as they do. They rely on volunteers to survive.

Just did a brief bit of Googling. It seems AGE UK pay *multiple* people salaries of £100,000 or more.

It is run like a franchise - here is one such franchise operating in Birmingham.

http://charitywatchuk.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/age-concern-birmingham/

I don't it's a surprise they have to use free labour if they are paying their CEO 1/20th of their total income!
 
Rroff only one of the paid staffers was young. think she was 24 but the others all 40+ they just didnt seem interested at all. the manager was only interested if any white leather sofa's turned up as she was looking for one.
 
il be blunt sliver, if the branches are run anything like the sally army branch i was in for mandatory work activity then id be having a look at them. as its shocking how some PAID staffers dont have a clue what they are doing.

i made the crackpot suggestion to sell furniture on ebay to widen their area and the manager didnt want to know. and the paid staff just hung about playing on candy crush all day while the volunteers and mandatory workers got stuck in.

I try not to get involved in the running of AGE UK. I'm not paid by them and I really don't need to answer to them. I turn up every week, help people with their IT problems and then go home. Simples. I am critical of some of the permanent staff and their lazy attitude to their jobs, as well as their ability to listen to suggestions from me and other volunteers and then completely ignore those suggestions, but I keep that to myself as It's really not my place to bring that up with them.
 
Just did a brief bit of Googling. It seems AGE UK pay *multiple* people salaries of £100,000 or more.

It is run like a franchise - here is one such franchise operating in Birmingham.

http://charitywatchuk.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/age-concern-birmingham/

I don't it's a surprise they have to use free labour if they are paying their CEO 1/20th of their total income!

Honestly, I don't care. They don't pay me and I don't need to do anything they say. I help out because I want to and I enjoy helping people. If that ever changes, I'll just stop helping.
 
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