The Bible Banned!

Tefal said:
i am genuinely curious why you think attending church reguarly is a requirement for being Christan.
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It may not be but it's kinda hard to get figures which separate non-churchgoing Christians and "cultural" Christians. We know that ~60% of people identified as Christian at the 2011 census, we know that in 2007 ~26% attended church at least once a year, so the murky boundary between "cultural" Christians and non-churchgoers is somewhere in the 34%. Churchgoing is the best proxy measurement I can think of, and I'd guess the number of non-churchgoing Christians is comparatively small.

Amp34 said:
I'd guess about 5% "regularly" go to church.
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The same report says 15% of the population attend church monthly, or 10% weekly.
 
Castiel said:
Errr...no-one has banned anything..you can still get a Gideon Bible at the chain if you want one, they simply do not place them in the rooms as they once did.

There is no reason to debase any religion, blame Muslims or attack anyone or anything for that matter..it really is absolutely no big deal whatsoever.
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Shame on the OP.
 
Sliver said:
Firstly, every Christian bible on earth contains the Old Testament, so it does apply to gentiles. Fundamentalist Christians get their homophobia from Leviticus, so you're wrong about that. Why do you think morons like the westboro baptist church picket funerals with signs that say 'God Hates Fags' ? There is NOTHING in the new testament about being gay being a sin. It comes from the Old Testament. Try reading it.
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Not every Bible contains the Old Testament..Gideon Bibles for example come in various forms, some are complete, some are just the Psalms and New Testament. Secondly, just because a bunch of Biblical Literalistic Evangelists apply Leviticus (and various other passages for that matter) literally and without context doesn't imply that All Christians (or Gentiles if your prefer to include all non-Jews) are required to follow such Old Testament judgements...Leviticus actually points this out in 26:46...

"These are the statutes and ordinances and laws that the Lord established between himself and the people of Israel on Mount Sinai through Moses."

So Tefal isn't wrong about what he said. You can argue more successfully that Conservative Evangelists such as the Westboro Church are wrong.

Perhaps you should take your own advice, and read it. ;)
 
Castiel said:
Errr...no-one has banned anything..you can still get a Gideon Bible at the chain if you want one, they simply do not place them in the rooms as they once did.

There is no reason to debase any religion, blame Muslims or attack anyone or anything for that matter..it really is absolutely no big deal whatsoever.
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Stop speaking sense, you're denying the GD right wing their daily anti-Muslim outrage.
 
Sliver said:
Firstly, every Christian bible on earth contains the Old Testament, so it does apply to gentiles. Fundamentalist Christians get their homophobia from Leviticus, so you're wrong about that. Why do you think morons like the westboro baptist church picket funerals with signs that say 'God Hates Fags' ? There is NOTHING in the new testament about being gay being a sin. It comes from the Old Testament. Try reading it.
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firstly no it doesn't.

and secondly i have read it.


interestingly the two best and most devout Christians i know are both gay, their churches have no problem with them at all.


perhaps its time you take your own advice and get reading
 
It's only 'banned' in the same way that laptop computers are 'banned' - ie, they don't provide them for guests and you'll need to bring your own.
 
Sliver said:
No need m8y, read already and refer to it constantly. ;)

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You are aware that the NWT is the Jehovah's Witness' own version of the Scripture, it is not used by anyone else and as such is questionable in both it's interpretation and translation. It has no authenticated or verifiable provenance regarding the translation as the Jehovah Witness Elders refuse to give the relevant qualifications or experience of the committee it says completed the translation. Effectively it is translated to suit the JW doctrine rather than JW doctrine being taken from the scripture.

You would be better served using the New Revised Standard Version or NRSV which is recognised as being the more accurate translation thus far.

Sliver said:
Indeed. He should do himself a favour and not speak about things of which he is not informed.
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I'm not sure if that is intentionally ironic or not.
 
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Art said:
It may not be but it's kinda hard to get figures which separate non-churchgoing Christians and "cultural" Christians. We know that ~60% of people identified as Christian at the 2011 census, we know that in 2007 ~26% attended church at least once a year, so the murky boundary between "cultural" Christians and non-churchgoers is somewhere in the 34%. Churchgoing is the best proxy measurement I can think of, and I'd guess the number of non-churchgoing Christians is comparatively small.



The same report says 15% of the population attend church monthly, or 10% weekly.
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I edited my post after you posted. I do appear to be a bit off with my suggestion of 5%, the latest figures (in the guardian link) appear to suggest just over 5million go once a month or more, which works out at about 8%, of which 2/3 of those read the bible at least once a year (second, more dubious link). Bad maths and carrying the 1 suggests that 5% read the bible about once a year or more.

The reality is though it's a recruitment technique
The Gideon s hoe that bored people will pick it up as the only and give it a read, then decide they want to know more...
 
MrMoonX said:
I find bibles in hotel rooms offensive and normally throw them in the bin


Religion should be banned!
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Anti-religion nutters are just as bad as pro-religion nutters. There are huge portions of many worldwide religions that outline or assure perfectly reasonable and good ways to live one's life. Only the vocal minority are psychopaths, and I daresay that they'd be the same psychopaths if religion didn't exist, just plying their awfulness under a different banner.
 
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Edrof said:
Anti-religion nutters are just as bad as pro-religion nutters.
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Bring your own bible then, this country is essentially non-religious as practically no one goes to any kind of church, it's something like 10% population attend a place of worship each week
 
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