DSG / S Tronic owner query
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Why? I have it on a conventional automatic and it's great.
But paying extra for it? That's like paying extra for presets on your radio, its a function of the braking system surely, what on earth is the extra for
No it's not - not on a DSG or an Auto it's not as this is never an issue on these types of transmission. It's there to auto apply the handbrake when you come to a stop so you don't need to sit there with your foot on the brake.
It works differently to conventional hill-assist anyway - Type-R explains that it engages the handbrake until you touch the throttle. Conventional hill assist (Had it on my 335i, GF has it on her mini) simply leaves the brakes on for a few seconds after you lift off the brake pedal.
So what is Type R talking about then? He says his system applies the handbrake for him, and implies it doesn't release it until you drive away.
Mind you he also says it was £200 when the Audi website says it's £65 so perhaps he is mistaken?
I don't understand why they would even offer a system such as you describe on a DSG - there is no clutch to balance, so what would be the purpose? The only system that would make sense on that transmission type is the sort myself and Type R describe?
Exactly, they've charged him £200 to put the brake on for him! It makes sense maybe paying for it on a manual, but on the auto where you can just drive off on a steep hill it shouldn't be offered as an option.[TW]Fox;26760670 said:
Unless, like I suspect, it's the same sort of system I have, which is incredible useful. He'll need to clarify.
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[TW]Fox;26760670 said:
No idea what Jokester is talking about tbh.
With my DSG, when you stop the car will be held stopped using the last known applied brake pressure, this mean either on a hill or on the flat you can leave the car in D and take your foot off the brake and the car won't move.
The car does the above using the brakes, not handbrake.
If the car is still for over 3 mins, the handbrake comes on and the hydraulic brakes come off.
It's a fantastic feature, not only does it mean you don't need to hold the car with your foot on the brakes, but it also means the car won't / can't roll backwards on hills.
You don't need it to stop you rolling backwards with any of the automated manual or automatic transmissions. That's not really the purpose
Traditional hill-hold is for manuals, it comes on momentarily when you release the brake to aid you whilst you pull away.
On a DSG, S tronic or auto this sort of feature works differently - it applies the handbrake for you and releases it when you apply throttle. It's purpose isn't to stop you rolling backwards, it's purpose is to keep the car stationary, ie, to stop you creeping forwards.
Well I would argue that Audi are overselling it as a few people in here think it also helps stop their S-tronics from rolling backwards on hills when actually they don't need it, but at least it adds £90 to the cost of the car when in a lot of cases all it is is software config!
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Didn't on my 6 speed.
I almost had that exact car you have ordered. Mine was a manual though. 177 TDI Quattro Avant Black Edition A4. Only had it 3 months because the fuel consumption was terrible, but still. Anyway, that's for another thread.
But IIRC, the handbrake automatically released when I started moving in that car. Which was nice.
Have an F11 now and as Fox says, with the auto handbrake, it's brilliant. Pull up at the lights, the handbrake goes on and the engine stops. Tap the accelerator, engine starts, handbrake releases, and car drives off. Minimal fuss & minimal lag (I couldn't put a manual into first quicker than all this happening). There are only 2 times it gets annoying.
1) Sitting in slow moving traffic. The engine doesn't always stop/start when you only move 3 feet at a time.
2) Stopping to put into reverse. The handbrake fires on and the engine stops just when you're ready to move off again in reverse.
The handbrake doesn't auto release though if you don't have the button pushed. So when I start my car and try to pull away, unless I specifically hit the auto handbrake button first, I have to manually disengage it. Annoys me, but I guess there is a reason.