I'm all for stop and searching. I want the police to be able to do their job without fear of being called racists by fools who have nothing better to do with their lives.
Ferguson and Michael Brown
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I'm all for stop and searching. I want the police to be able to do their job without fear of being called racists by fools who have nothing better to do with their lives.
If you shoot someone then there is a good chance they'll die. There really is no distinction 'shoot to injure' is nonsense... you're shooting them to stop them and with the knowledge that in doing so they could easily die as a result.
I believe they are trained to fire three shots in rapid succession... presumably he did so twice... a 300lb charging man doesn't stop dead after a single round. I wouldn't be surprised if we later have an autopsy report showing traces of drugs.
I am not keen on it, but I consider the activities to be optional so if you wish to avoid it you can; visiting those places comes with an expectation of search. Random street searches are simply not fair for those trying to go about their everyday lives.
It doesn't completely disprove it at all. If there was a struggle and a holstered gun went off in a car then it's feasible that there might not be any residue at all on him. Even if the gun was pointed at him at a range of 2m then there would be no residue on him.
They do tell me why they are stopping me. I am in an area where it is common for violence and weapons to be used. A long with a massive drug problem.
I am not bothered because I do not have anything to hide or be worried about.
Really?!?!?
I bet you'd be one of the first to critisise the police for not randomly searching the man or woman who stabbed someone in your local town!
I really wouldn't be
He's on film violently robbing a store... There are multiple witnesses saying he was involved in a struggle with the cop... the whole reason he was stopped initially was because he was being a massive ****, arrogantly sauntering up the middle of the road with his buddy instead of using the pavement like a normal human being. It's not that far fetched to presume that this guy was a bit of a scumbag.
Robbery is illegal. Might turn out that the officer acted in a lawful way.
Bigger scumbag = the kid
Doesn't bother him because he doesn't go out much. We established this.
Someone gets stabbed. OMG COPS NEED TO DO MORZ TO STOP KNIFE CRIMEZ!
Cops start randomly stop searching. OMG COZ ARE ABUSING UZZZ!!!
People who carry knifes don't brandish them until they are being used. Funny that.
Now you're just being silly.
A suspicious character goes on to murder someone innocent.... This could've been avoided had a policeman thought "sod human rights. I'm about human safely".
You'd let that pass?
He has been silly and awkward this whole topic.
Cheesyboy. Personal question. Do you stay at home and smoke weed?
No, but if someone goes out and stabs someone, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that we all need to be screened for knives to stop the event happening again.
I believe that a certain number of tragedies are, sadly, inevitable in any society. Reasonable steps should be taken to reduce them, but I consider individual liberty for the population as a whole to be worth defending.
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I have been following American policing for years and recent events have come as no surprise. Cops in America are simply out of control. Over reaction and brutality are common, especially towards minorities. Since 911 everyone is a potential terrorist and is treated as such. I have watched cops put guns in teenagers faces for suspected under age drinking. Grandmothers beaten to a pulp, dogs shot, all constitutional rights ignored. Bullies in uniforms is the American way. Ferguson is a symptom of everything that is wrong with policing culture in the states. The fact remains, if the kid was white he most likely would still be here. Additionally if he was white, he would not have been allowed to lie dead in the street for 4 hours.
Thankfully there is a huge growth in awareness thanks to like of copblock, people are finally realizing that it shouldn't be this way.
Thankfully there is a huge growth in awareness thanks to like of copblock, people are finally realizing that it shouldn't be this way.
I have a wife, kids, professional career and have only ever smoked weed on about 10 occasions. You?
Nah, can't stand the stuff.
Congrats on the nice life. So you really are this liberal then?
Thought maybe it was the weed / conspiracy theories talking.
What... you mean like people who fit certain profiles? I thought you were against all that?
What would you class as reasonable steps?
Takes a lot for police to shoot you in America, contrary to popular belief.
He would have to be acting in a manner which led the police to believe he was armed and ignored their pleas for him to put his hands up and stand where he was.
I don't get how being high is relevant except maybe that is what led him to disregard the officers requests, I mean I don't like going to the shops for a pint of milk if I've smoked any of that stuff - I'm barely capable of sitting in a beanbag eating popcorn listening to Jeff Wayne's war of the worlds, let alone robbing a store?
I was reading about some police who almost shot a guy because he was ignoring their requests for him to comply and waving around a teenage mutant ninjas toothbrush, but because it was dark they couldn't see it wasn't a knife or shiv of some kind.
He would have to be acting in a manner which led the police to believe he was armed and ignored their pleas for him to put his hands up and stand where he was.
I don't get how being high is relevant except maybe that is what led him to disregard the officers requests, I mean I don't like going to the shops for a pint of milk if I've smoked any of that stuff - I'm barely capable of sitting in a beanbag eating popcorn listening to Jeff Wayne's war of the worlds, let alone robbing a store?
I was reading about some police who almost shot a guy because he was ignoring their requests for him to comply and waving around a teenage mutant ninjas toothbrush, but because it was dark they couldn't see it wasn't a knife or shiv of some kind.
Then please... Tell me what you would suggest?
I come from an area where crime is fairly high among young people. I've been stopped and searched (have also had my cars searched) a few times in the past. I could've jumped up and played the race card... Fortunately I have common sense and was more relieved to know that the cops were doing their job.
The thought of police not being able to stop and search people concerns me.
That's a wide question. But, in short: arresting knife wielding nutters; following lines of enquiry on reports of violent individuals; appropriate support for those with a history of violence. And on and so forth.
Stopping those whom the police have reasonable belief may be carrying illegal weapons or are performing illegal activities is, obviously, reasonable.
No, people who are acting like they are up to no good, or who are known to the police to be troublemakers.
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So you haven't seen the video of brown bullying the shop owner and forcing his way out with out paying?