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This is bad for multi GPUs - Intel Core i7-5820K Features Fewer PCI-Express Lanes After All
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I paid £430 for my 3930K when it came out i believe. I expect the 5930K to come in at around the same.
does the 5820K replace the 4690K?
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5820K replaces 4820k
5930K replaces 4930K
5960X replaces 4960X
The 4690K is part of their mainstream lineup, these are all their extreme lineup (ones being replaced were x79, new are x99 chipset platform)
Edit: So it's sockets & example processors:
extreme:
1366 -> 2011 -> 2011-3
i7 920 -> i7 3930k -> i7 5820k
main:
1156 -> 1155 -> 1150
i7 860 -> i7 2600k -> i7 4770k
I'll not do chipsets as there are numerous options for each of the above steps.
5930K replaces 4930K
5960X replaces 4960X
The 4690K is part of their mainstream lineup, these are all their extreme lineup (ones being replaced were x79, new are x99 chipset platform)
Edit: So it's sockets & example processors:
extreme:
1366 -> 2011 -> 2011-3
i7 920 -> i7 3930k -> i7 5820k
main:
1156 -> 1155 -> 1150
i7 860 -> i7 2600k -> i7 4770k
I'll not do chipsets as there are numerous options for each of the above steps.
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Just an update Scotty.. Didn't work mate. Apparently only works on the 6x0 original Titan and 780. Doesn't work on 780ti or TB you need Ivy for those
Wrong, the USD cost between 4930k and 5930k is no different.
GBP price will be higher as pound has being weakening all week, but Intel are not to blame for exchange rates.
Well then hey, at least that's good news.
Still a shame to see that there's always an excuse to over charge in the UK though. Nice to see the customer always has to foot the bill for things like exchange rates and so on.
Just an update Scotty.. Didn't work mate. Apparently only works on the 6x0 original Titan and 780. Doesn't work on 780ti or TB you need Ivy for those
Did you run the patch as Admin?
The Sandy Bridge-E was not officially PCI-E 3.0 because the ports signalling to the graphicscard was over a certain margain, that was accepted for PCI-E 3.0 standard. AMD didn't see it as a problem an never adresse the issue within their driver to lock the cards to PCI-E 2.0.
NVidia on the other hand saw it as a potential issue and didn't want to be pointed at for possible signalling issues, so they per driver level limited all GTX 600 series to PCI-E 2.0. On the users own precaution they release the nVidia X79 PCI-E 3.0 Patch to be able to run PCI-E with GTX 600 series cards on a Sandy Bridge-E CPU.
The GTX 690 is per default running PCI-E 3.0 since all signalling and communications is done internally between the two GPU's leaving the CPU out of the equation, and hence no potential issues regarding the CPU.
With that said one question bugs me.
Can you run 3-way SLi with a 5820K ?
If I remember correct nVidia doesn't allow or support running SLi at anything lower than PCI-e x8 pr lane !... or am I wrong ?
It does work ! You have to run the patch as Administrator and then reboot your PC.
I had a Core i7 3930K with 3x 780's and a Core i7 3820 with 2x 780Ti's and both systems ran PCI-E 3.0 after the patch had been applied. Only down side was that you had to repeat this procedure every time you update your GFX drives.
Now with 4930K's in both systems I don't need the patch and they run PCI-E 3.0 natively.
NVidia on the other hand saw it as a potential issue and didn't want to be pointed at for possible signalling issues, so they per driver level limited all GTX 600 series to PCI-E 2.0. On the users own precaution they release the nVidia X79 PCI-E 3.0 Patch to be able to run PCI-E with GTX 600 series cards on a Sandy Bridge-E CPU.
The GTX 690 is per default running PCI-E 3.0 since all signalling and communications is done internally between the two GPU's leaving the CPU out of the equation, and hence no potential issues regarding the CPU.
With that said one question bugs me.
Can you run 3-way SLi with a 5820K ?
If I remember correct nVidia doesn't allow or support running SLi at anything lower than PCI-e x8 pr lane !... or am I wrong ?
Just an update Scotty.. Didn't work mate. Apparently only works on the 6x0 original Titan and 780. Doesn't work on 780ti or TB you need Ivy for those
It does work ! You have to run the patch as Administrator and then reboot your PC.
I had a Core i7 3930K with 3x 780's and a Core i7 3820 with 2x 780Ti's and both systems ran PCI-E 3.0 after the patch had been applied. Only down side was that you had to repeat this procedure every time you update your GFX drives.
Now with 4930K's in both systems I don't need the patch and they run PCI-E 3.0 natively.
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How is Intel or the reseller held accountable for exchange rates? If we set our margin at 5% it is 5% on the landed cost and big change in exchange rate can result in more than 5% so its not like the reseller can maintain the same consistent price.
No one was moaning back in the day when the GBP was smashing the USD, it can go both ways, price up or down.
What you suggest also means customer would loose out when GBP strengthens.....
I still don't understand it.
Company calls distributor to get product, product bought for say £1000. It arrives at companies warehouse. Product then put on sale to the public.
Why would fluctuating conversion rates affect the cost to the public when the price was already set at £1000. I understand that if you bought more product, then it would/may be different but if you already have stock why would the price differ ?
Company calls distributor to get product, product bought for say £1000. It arrives at companies warehouse. Product then put on sale to the public.
Why would fluctuating conversion rates affect the cost to the public when the price was already set at £1000. I understand that if you bought more product, then it would/may be different but if you already have stock why would the price differ ?
I'm I being dumb here ? Ok they charge you at current price but surely the price you have paid is the price you have paid. If its in your warehouse the price isnt going to go up just becuase the exchange rate has changed ?
Yep, SLI'ing with Nvidia requires all cards to run at least x8.
28 lanes is still enough for that, or depending how it scales... would PCI1 be x16, then x8 then x4, if thats the case then the 5820k would not run tri sli but of course, crossfire would be ok. If all slots can run X8, x8, x8 then all is good.
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They need to replace it - that's the cost.
Imagine they buy in a new item at £100, it gets old and drops to £50 to buy in. By your method they'd still be trying to sell their stock for £100 + markup (say £105) while a newer competitor would be at £52.50 for the same item. They'd get destroyed.
If they anticipate a large increase in price they can buy in extra stock, and hold below-market rates for a while (OCUK have done this before with RAM) to drive traffic, but exchange rates are not OCUKs core skill so they're not going to take a gamble and over-order on the assumption the pound weakens.
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They have to restock, so they charge you what it would cost to rebuy stock
This.
Also my response was with ALXAndy stating that USD cost on 4930k and 5930k is identical.
The cause in difference is really quite simple:-
4930k stock purchased when rate was 1.72
5930k stock purchased when rate was 1.66
It makes quite a difference as all Intel and pretty much all components are purchased in USD.
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Same here, I can't imagine going above 2 cards either (due to money mainly), Plus a pair of next gen's top end cards should be able to run 4k well enough. I'd hope so anyway. Due to the hit and miss nature of 3 and 4 way support it'll be a travesty if not.