Why is the figurative definition of "Baby" a sexual one?

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Examples:

"I ****ed my baby last night." (Some rapper)
"That baby doll is so sexy." (random singer)
"Baby, baby, baby, oooooh" (Justin Bieber).

The peculiar thing is I only ever see puppets from the media industries using the word baby in a sexual sense. I have never heard the word baby used in this sense in any face to face communication with anyone in my entire lifetime. Referring to a female friend who you were smashing your sausage into last night as your "baby" is going to make me sick I'm afraid.

So why do so many music artists like to abuse the word "Baby"?

I was reading an article today where the NSPCC mentioned school rapes have increased by 40% in three years because "porn" was apparently made available only three years ago. This is an absolute falsehood as the naked body is as old as life itself, and porn as home entertainment is well over two decades old. What is being done here is deflecting the blame from the music industry. That celebrity prostitute, Miley Cyrus, started becoming famous just as this huge 40% rise in school rapes started, and she actively promotes and teaches boys to treat women as nothing but objects for sex, and she teaches girls that it's normal behaviour and that they should just take it.

What are your thoughts?

Have school rapes increased because porn hit our screens three years ago, or is it because of the general degeneration of society due to the ever increasing popularisation of whores like Miley Cyrus.
 
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I think it's probably more a combination of a positive change in the sexual zeitgeist and a general decline (or perhaps stagnation) in education and societal factors such as a continual and belligerent promotion of deviant behaviour by the media.
 
The media definitely has the power to seriously harm society. In fact almost all of any harm done to society is because of the abundance of media.

Does anyone remember a few months back when they had headlines along the lines of "Paedophilia is natural and healthy" because some government funded research guys at a University said so?

I have some worrying ideas of what the media will eventually achieve.

Think about it. The government targets all legal/adult porn sites and locks them down requiring opt-in to access. Then a few months later the media reports sexual interest in children as being "normal". And don't forget, you now have swathes of previously trusted icons coming out as child molesters (psychologically speaking, subconsciously you will start to believe that "hey they're not so bad". The psychologically ideal method to make bad things bearable and then acceptable is to know a good person that does bad things or a good person that did bad things when you thought they were good (psychology is hard to explain)).

I do have a wild and almost deluded imagination but too many of my paranoid ideas come true.
 
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Led Zeppelin recorded Baby Come on Home back in the 60s, and probably weren't the first. I often call my wife baby. Feel free to be sick. I'm not sure what that part of the post had to do with the rest of it, though.
 
I understand Led Zeppelin used the word in the 60s however with the sheer number of famous acts being exposed as child molesters in recent years, the popularisation of the term is somewhat worrying. I mean look at those guys who distributed full frontal child nudity as their album cover, I wonder how many times they used the word "baby" in a literal sense in their album. I believe using the term "baby" should be left to people like that and should not be used just because it's become popularised by a perverted industry.

I believe that the word alone has the power to subconsciously pervert the minds of unwitting people.
 
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The use of the term for an adult loved-one undoubtedly stems from the sentiment to care for utterly, with great affection - in the same way a parent would a child. Since then it took on a slightly altered meaning due to the natural vagaries of our language use.
 
asim18 said:
I understand Led Zeppelin used the word in the 60s however with the sheer number of famous acts being exposed as child molesters in recent years, the popularisation of the term is somewhat worrying. I mean look at those guys who distributed full frontal child nudity as their album cover, I wonder how many times they used the word "baby" in a literal sense in their album. I believe using the term "baby" should be left to people like that and should not be used just because it's become popularised by a perverted industry.

I believe that the word alone has the power to subconsciously pervert the minds of unwitting people.
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You mean Nirvana? Not the band I thought would use baby in any of their lyrics.
 
It's a term of affection, not strictly a sexual one like ****.

People call each other love as well does that mean we all love each other
 
asim18 said:
I understand Led Zeppelin used the word in the 60s however with the sheer number of famous acts being exposed as child molesters in recent years, the popularisation of the term is somewhat worrying. I mean look at those guys who distributed full frontal child nudity as their album cover, I wonder how many times they used the word "baby" in a literal sense in their album.
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Twice, once per chorus on the song 'drain you'.


Put the crack pipe down, Asim. People have been using the term 'baby' to describe people other than babies for longer than you've been alive. It isn't connected with pedophilia. At all.

I believe that the word alone has the power to subconsciously pervert the minds of unwitting people.
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james.miller said:
People have been using the term 'baby' to describe people other than babies for longer than you've been alive. It isn't connected with pedophilia. At all.
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Yes. People have been using the term longer than I've been alive, but my worry is in light of more recent revelations, a lot of these people who use the word and helped popularised it are actually paedophiles and/or currently aiming to spread perversion through mankind (like Justin Beiber, Robin Thicke and Miley Cyrus to name a few).
 
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james.miller said:
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Difficult as it is to get your head around, your entire taste, enjoyment, etc. is built around the connections your brain has subconsciously formed for you. You don't like fish n chips because you want to like fish n chips for example. Your brain is a sponge, especially when you're young and you hear things you cant yet process consciously.
 
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Right, so, we're all idiots because we cant understand your crackpot theory, Miley Cyrus is a prostitute whore, Nirvana were bunch of pedophiles and anybody who uses the term 'baby' is also a closet pedo helping to spread this nonsense.

'That sum it up?

You don't like fish n chips because you want to like fish n chips for example. Your brain is a sponge, especially when you're young and you hear things you cant yet process consciously.
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I like fish and chips because i like fish and chips. The same reason i dont like shepards pie, and this has nothing to do with being 'conditioned' by external sources.
 
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Right, so, we're all idiots because we cant understand your crackpot theory, Miley Cyrus is a prostitute whore, Nirvana were bunch of pedophiles and anybody who uses the term 'baby' is also a closet pedo helping to spread this nonsense.

'That sum it up?
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That's not what I'm saying at all, and I haven't called anyone an idiot, I do believe Miley Cyrus is a whore however, congrats on that one. :p
 
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james.miller said:
I like fish and chips because i like fish and chips. The same reason i dont like shepards pie, and this has nothing to do with being 'conditioned' by external sources.
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Well okay if you want to believe your likes and dislikes are based on the same reason then that's fine for you. But what about things like eating snake then? If you were raised in a country where snakes are normally eaten would you not be "conditioned by external sources"?

What if you were Bear Grylls' offspring, would you eat a beetle because of your father's sperm or because you were influenced 'externally' by actually watching him eat beetles?

I hope you don't like curry because something must have gone wrong if you like curry :p
 
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asim18 said:
Does anyone remember a few months back when they had headlines along the lines of "Paedophilia is natural and healthy" because some government funded research guys at a University said so?
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Well, they're probably right. It's the paedophiles that act on their desires that are the problem. I have a lot of pity for paedophiles because paedophilia was never a path that they chose. We all know that you can't define your own sexuality, and unfortunately theirs happens to be one which we frown upon greatly, and which is horrible.
 
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Well, they're probably right. It's the paedophiles that act on their desires that are the problem. I have a lot of pity for paedophiles because paedophilia was never a path that they chose. We all know that you can't define your own sexuality, and unfortunately theirs happens to be one which we frown upon greatly, and which is horrible.
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Haha I've said similar things in typical pub conversations before and was almost ostracised. I've wondered, are there paedophiles out there that are so morally appalled by their own sexuality that they force restraint and don't contribute in any way to the abuse and sexualisation of children throughout their whole lives?
 
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