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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28961229


A crew member on a US police reality TV show has been shot and killed after Nebraska police opened fire on a robbery suspect.

Bryce Dion, 38, was wearing a bulletproof vest but the bullet that hit him "slipped into a gap" in the arm and entered his chest, police said.

Dion was a sound operator on Cops for seven years, the show's producer said.

Police also killed the robbery suspect, Cortez Washington, who was on parole from prison.

"This is very hard for us," Morgan Langley, who hired Dion, said at a press conference on Wednesday.

Cops is a long-running US television series that follows police officers while they are on-duty. The show has featured police forces from at least 140 US cities and three other countries.

Dion and a cameraman were with two officers who responded to a call for backup at a fast-food restaurant in Omaha.

Frame grabs from security video showing an armed robbery at a Wendy's restaurant in Omaha is displayed during a news conference at police headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska 27 August 2014 Security footage shows the robbery suspect and a pellet gun police thought was a real firearm
Washington fired a pellet gun, which police and witnesses thought was a real weapon, Police Chief Todd Schmaderer said.

Chief Schmaderer told reporters police fired back and Washington was struck by officers' gunfire but fled outside of the restaurant before collapsing.

Dion was struck as police continued to fire on Washington as he left the restaurant.

The Omaha World-Herald reported police fired at least 30 shots during the incident.

Chief Schmaderer said his officers were "taking this very hard".

"Bryce was their friend."
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when you skim it it sounds like the member of the film crew was caught in some cross fire. but when you delve into the story it turns out the robber was armed with a pellet gun and us police fired in excess of 30 rounds to bring him down as well as killing an innocent bystander in the process.


bravo you trigger happy morons.
 
It does reflect a serious lack of training when you continue to fire wildly with the very civilians you are supposed to "protect and serve" in your background.
 
I was laying in bed this morning over hearing the news on the TV and they first make it out that the suspect's round was the one that hit the sound guy, then they finish with.. The suspect was holding a pellet gun...

30 rounds though in a public place is hard to believe though.
 
I saw an advert on my newsfeed recently about an american company that sells tactical furniture i.e. you hide your guns within the furniture which can be strewn around the house, and is locked magnetically.

I'm so glad we do not have such gun laws in this country. Whilst I enjoyed shooting them, and enjoy the marksmanship and skill involved in guns, the devastation they can cause so easily is also quite frightening.
 
The fact it was just a pellet gun doesn't really matter as the police can only assume its a real gun.

The fact they fired so wildly when camera crew and civilians were in the vicinity is frightening.
 
I'm glad not all police are armed in the UK. This is what happens when all officers are armed and as such standards and training significantly drop. As well as they'll be used more often.
Our gun laws are to tight, there's however are way to lax. And you can't change it over night in such a country it'll take centuries. But they need to slowly start banning the more powerful weapons over time, start by making them gun range only etc, stored in gun range safe.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
The fact it was just a pellet gun doesn't really matter as the police can only assume its a real gun.

The fact they fired so wildly when camera crew and civilians were in the vicinity is frightening.
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Unless its bright orange, although I am unsure in this case as to the aesthetics of the gun. However all fake guns in the states have an orange tip.
 
porushinobu said:
Unless its bright orange, although I am unsure in this case as to the aesthetics of the gun. However all fake guns in the states have an orange tip.
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I doubt he would have tried to commit an armed robbery with a fake gun still displaying its fake credentials, to be fair.
 
Glaucus said:
I'm glad not all police are armed in the UK. This is what happens when all officers are armed and as such standards and training significantly drop. As well as they'll be used more often.
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I don't believe this is a problem in NI? Or indeed most of Europe?

I think it's a cultural thing rather than specifically just being armed.
 
porushinobu said:
Unless its bright orange, although I am unsure in this case as to the aesthetics of the gun. However all fake guns in the states have an orange tip.
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were talking about the same police officers who miss the fact theres innocent bystanders in their line of fire whilst unleashing 30 rounds at a suspect. you could probably be holding a potato and still get shot
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I don't believe this is a problem in NI? Or indeed most of Europe?

I think it's a cultural thing rather than specifically just being armed.
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They have to drop, you can't just kick officers off firearms like we do, they can't spend as much time being trained as dedicated firearms officers, then theirs the cost, so training will be reduced. It might be better in those countries, but I highly doubt they will be as well trained as a dedicated force.
I mean our officers don't have time to do their job, let alone extensive and frequent firearms training.
 
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were talking about the same police officers who miss the fact theres innocent bystanders in their line of fire whilst unleashing 30 rounds at a suspect. you could probably be holding a potato and still get shot
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Or your wallet...or nothing at all....

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/05/n...re-41-shots-and-an-unarmed-man-is-killed.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/27/usa.julianborger

40-50 shots each in those stories...with half of them spraying the surroundings!
 
porushinobu said:
Unless its bright orange, although I am unsure in this case as to the aesthetics of the gun. However all fake guns in the states have an orange tip.
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They do not all have the orange tip and it is not requires in all states either, then there's always paint, even if it was orange tipped if you point it at the police you'll probably get shot.

233 said:
were talking about the same police officers who miss the fact theres innocent bystanders in their line of fire whilst unleashing 30 rounds at a suspect. you could probably be holding a potato and still get shot
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They don't miss the fact, they're just not trained that way, you also can't not shoot at someone pointing a gun at you on the off chance you miss them because then the might shoot you, or someone else.

Freakbro said:
Or your wallet...or nothing at all....

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/05/n...re-41-shots-and-an-unarmed-man-is-killed.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/27/usa.julianborger

40-50 shots each in those stories...with half of them spraying the surroundings!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bell_shooting_incident

Both sound justified if it happened how they reported, that he ran back into his house and pulled something out of his jacket, why would you do that?

The second guy used his car as a weapon against an officer by accelerating into him.
 
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I can see the NRA response now, everyone leaving the safety of there own home is to wear bullet proof clothing. We must keep our arms at all costs.

Cant this stupid stupid nation see what there outdated constitution is doing to them.

They really are a laughing stock in everything they touch since the moon landings and the shuttle.
 
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