:( Weird blue lines when using Unigine Heaven 4.0 bench

[Surfer]

So i have recently updated my graphics card bios to this one (in attempts to solve high temp problems) (followed both tutorial on here and rumorscity one no problems at all - though i still have the physical switch on the GPU in the 1 position after i flipped it..should i move it back??)

https://rumorscity.com/2013/12/12/msi-r9-280x-bios-update-to-fix-overheating-and-vrm-temperatures/

And i did a Unigine Heaven 4.0 test (maximum 1920x1080 ultra etc the settings used for the Unigine Heaven bench thread)

All good to start..higher minimum framerates (20+) than i had before (9 fps! on old bios) and also my graphics card was taking much longer to increase temp. We get to test 24 or 25 out of 26 and max temps are about 82 degrees with fans 50% (when i ran the test under previous bios the temps at this stage would be 87 and fans on 99%)

So fairly satisfied with that until the program decides to crash and i get a display driver not responding etc.

I start Unigine Heaven 4.0 again and when i begin benchmarking i get this....







As you can see the blue lines went away when i switch Tesslation OFF. Why is this? Any ideas anyone ? help?

Ohh btw just for morbid interest...my old score on Unigine Heaven 4.0 before this bios update was a huge 347 fps 9 -27 (i5-4690k, 8 gig ram, MSI gaming r9 280x graphics)

 

[Freddie1980]

It looks like the BIOS has also tampered with you cards clockrates/powertune/boost speeds settings. The card is artifacting because either the memory or the core clock is running beyond itself and needs to be dialed back.

Maybe run the benchmark again with afterburner display on so you can see what the card is doing in-terms of fan speeds, temps and clockrates and compare that to the previous/stock bios.

 

[Randomface74]

burnt out vram

 

[Surfer]

It looks like the BIOS has also tampered with you cards clockrates/powertune/boost speeds settings. The card is artifacting because either the memory or the core clock is running beyond itself and needs to be dialed back.

Maybe run the benchmark again with afterburner display on so you can see what the card is doing in-terms of fan speeds, temps and clockrates and compare that to the previous/stock bios.

How can the core clock be running beyond itself if it is at stock?

Fan speeds and temps were good much lower than on previous bios.

On the old bios temps were much higher and they got higher quicker and the fans had to be on 90% + to keep temps under control

here is GPUZ log of new bios

from left to right

DATE GPU CORE CLOCK MEMORY CLOCK GPU TEMP FAN SPEED % FAN SPEED RPM GPU LOAD MEMORY USAGE (DEDICATED) MEMORY USAGE (DYNAMIC)


ok i can run the benchmark again with the blue lines and see if it finishes.

Note...just ran the Sleeping Dogs bench and it crashes ....hard crash...droning sound....oh dear

 

[Surfer]

burnt out vram

Whats this?? Because of the new bios you think?

 

[humbug]

There are 3 different Vram types: Hynix, Elpida and Samsung.

If the Vram on your GPU is Hynix and the BIOS you now have running on it is Elpida then you could end up with a problem like this.

Switch the BIOS switch into the other position, do still get this problem?

 

[Surfer]

There are 3 different Vram types: Hynix, Elpida and Samsung.

If the Vram on your GPU is Hynix and the BIOS you now have running on it is Elpida then you could end up with a problem like this.

Switch the BIOS switch into the other position, do still get this problem?

Hi, it looks like you were right. I flipped the switch back (to restore old bios) checked the Unigine Heaven 4.0 bench and the blue lines are gone....

The sleeping dogs benchmark also works ok on this bios.


However fps is very low and temps are worse on this bios

Here are the GPUZ logs for the sleeping dogs benchmark



Notice the much higher temps...higher fan speeds on this bios (my original bios)


Note : my original bios was this(lower fps, higher temps, high fan speeds)






Note: the new bios i tried (higher fps, lower temps and lower fan speeds but with blue lines and crashed during sleeping dogs benchmark)

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/146769/msi-r9280x-3072-131009.html


Any ideas whats going on?

 

[humbug]

No i don't have a clue, your Temps reached 96c at one point, thats far from right.

Is it an MSI Gaming GPU?, some batches of them do have problems. i would send it back.

 

[Surfer]

No i don't have a clue, your Temps reached 96c at one point, thats far from right.

Is it an MSI Gaming GPU?, some batches of them do have problems. i would send it back.

yep it is...new as well...bought from Noxia on here and he got it from someone else on here.

A tad annoying it is but thanks for your help humbug.

 

[gareth170]

try under clocking it to 1000/1400 on the new bios to see if it goes.

 

[Surfer]

Underclock it? a new card? Hrmm

I think this card is faulty so i'm RMAing it to OCUK. I have tried to get it working properly..believe me lol. (just had another black screen of death when i tried sims 2 and no display at all..numerous restarts)

On integrated graphics for now.

Considering how i purchased this... ie from Noxia, who got it from Luke who got it from OCUK wonder if it will be problematic to RMA.

 

[Randomface74]

Whats this?? Because of the new bios you think?

VRAM doesn't cope as well with temperatures as the GPU itself. So when the card gets too hot and it damages the VRAM - this is the kind of thing you see. Every time I've seen this posted, the GPU temp has been over 70C - so I think keeping the GPU under 70C is a good idea.

I can't say 100% this is what it is, but it sounds likely to me because this particular card was running hot. If I'm right it's not repairable.

We saw this a lot with the Nvidia 8800/9800 cards - there was a driver update that broke fan profiles (on purpose I suspect) and everyone started posting screenshots like yours.

 

[Surfer]

oh dear...

The weird thing is the temps were lower and more stable on the new bios (highest was 83 degrees) Whereas on the old bios they could get up to 96 degrees (see earlier post when i did the Sleeping Dogs bench)

In any case i've given up and started RMA process with it.

 

[humbug]

oh dear...

The weird thing is the temps were lower and more stable on the new bios (highest was 83 degrees) Whereas on the old bios they could get up to 96 degrees (see earlier post when i did the Sleeping Dogs bench)

In any case i've given up and started RMA process with it.

You do right.

 

[gareth170]

Underclock it? a new card? Hrmm
.

Underclock it will show if it stock issue. if it still happens when underclocked it then it could be a heat issue or the bios isn't right for your card, eg memory timings maybe to tight..

tbh u should try everything u can first before rma it because it could come back to you if they don't find anything wrong. it's happened to me before.

 

[humbug]

Underclock it will show if it stock issue. if it still happens when underclocked it then it could be a heat issue or the bios isn't right for your card, eg memory timings maybe to tight..

tbh u should try everything first before rma it because it could come back to you if they don't fine anything wrong.

It should work properly out of the box, untouched, its not, its faulty.

 

[Surfer]

On both bios versions there were problems. Say you are correct and the heat issue and the artifacts were gone if i underclocked it (on new bios)...sorry but that to me is is not a solution. If it cant run at stock and needs to be underclocked there's a problem there surely?

Old bios lots of temp problems and sometimes black screen of death (see my other threads )

 

[gareth170]

It should work properly out of the box, untouched, its not, its faulty.

it does work out of the box without artifacting on stock bios tho even tho his temps were reading high, maybe misreading

it's like my cards on stock bios they work fine even at high temp but performance is poor, with the bios update the performance is fixed but becomes unstable to a black screen anything over 69-70c, both cards do totally the same thing. it's highly unlikely i have 2 faulty cards from 2 different retailers.

 

[humbug]

it does work out of the box without artifacting on stock bios tho even tho his temps were reading high, maybe misreading

it's like my cards on stock bios they work fine even at high temp but performance is poor, with the bios update the performance is fixed but becomes unstable to a black screen anything over 69-70c, both cards do totally the same thing. it's highly unlikely i have 2 faulty cards from 2 different retailers.

Take one out and test it on its own, then swap them round. keep Power Tune at 0%, they should not throttle at stock.

 

[Surfer]

it does work out of the box without artifacting on stock bios tho even tho his temps were reading high, maybe misreading

so thats GPUZ, CPUID, MSI Afterburner and CCC all misreading temps yeah?

it's like my cards on stock bios they work fine even at high temp but performance is poor, with the bios update the performance is fixed but becomes unstable to a black screen anything over 69-70c, both cards do totally the same thing. it's highly unlikely i have 2 faulty cards from 2 different retailers.

Just so we are clear

original bios = high temps (90+), very high fan speeds(90% +), black screen of death occasionally. Now notice very very faint flicker lines when i switch on pc (didnt notice this before because i thought was normal but i dont get this on integrated card im using now)

the new bios i tried = more stable temps, low fan speeds (50%) and better fps when i tested but gives artifacts. Also *hard* crashes on games and benching (sleeping dogs)

From what youve said i think there is a problem with your card as well