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Hi guys,

New to the forum,

I know this most probably has been covered like a millions times before, I have read some of the set ups on here and for the last 3 days I have been researching hard on what to have in my build setup.

Background
I work for a aviation company, I am handy with my hands. I work on cars as my hobby, I have a track car that I intend to race in the future.
I also have a moderate understanding of hardware and software

I was hoping some of you knowledgeable people could help me out....

Requirements:

I want to build this Pc to run Iracing and other Racing sim games, I know I don't need as much as I am putting in to the Pc but, I would like a Pc that can run mostly any game on ultra.

I wouldn't mind a set up that will act positivly towards a big overclock ( I don't know fully everything about this so far, what I have learnt help me out here:
1.You require more speed from the part you are clocking
2.Then the part does best it can
3.Then you up the voltage to best you can with out over heating <<<<< is this correct?

I would also like a set up that I could future poof, this is fairly important...

Build:

Processor ~ £240

I am looking at getting Intel i7 4790k, This is most likely over the top for the games now. I was hoping to get this for future proofing and if I decide to do some editing or something random hoping this would help...

I have seen a couple of videos now where it looks like these don't clock that well?

Any other suggestions welcome :)

Cooling £~£80

I want to run the Corsair H100i as this will help in the future if I decide to overclock and also these seem to be market leaders at the moment...

GPU ~ £500

I did have a brief look at the r9 290x because of its 4k handling capability, I quickly changed my mind on that as the 4k tv's with low input lag do not exist :P, best I found was panasonic and that was £1900 with around 42ms iirc....

So on to my choice... Decided that I would like the Gtx 780ti, It seems very good. I don't 100% understand all the ways it overclocks safely (eg green light or something :S) yet but it seems to pack a punch. Granted it's not a good as the r9 290x at 4k but, as I said earlier 4k isn't a viable option for me yet, and when it dose become one I would hopefully sli the 780ti.

That reminds me I am going wait for the 900 series to come out so that the 700 series will hopefully drop in price release date I think was the 19th/21st of September.

What does everyone think about the 900 series get that or just get the ti, as its more than capable at the moment and when I need more power then sli?

Comments welcome on this:)

Hard Drive/ SSD ~£230

After looking around for a fair bit a found the Crucial MX100 512GB to be very cheap on what it offers, anyone had experiences?

Then looking at this Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM... 3TB for 80 is that cheap it seems it to me? Reliability issues?

Case ~£120

I am really really liking this case Corsair Carbide Air 540 its perfect for the liquid cooling on the top an the airflow must be immense through the core. Looks like loads of room to upgrade too...

CD Drive ~£20

Something cheap and cheerful LG 24x DVD Burner

OS Not sure around £80-120?

Hopfully 8.1 pro

Total so far
£1310 Hoping the prices drop a little of the 780ti and a couple of other things plus I'm sure some one will be along to help me save money where I am doing something wrong or creating a bottle neck or something :P

Everything Else
Powerpack Ram and MoBo I do not have a clue...

Ram everyone seems to use vengeance or something...

MoBo I don't know what makes one good so hoping some one could explain...

Anything else people recommend? fan controllers or something?

Case fan upgrades?

Thanks guys for enduring my massive post just hope people take pitty on me now to answer and share ideas :)
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum :)

I have built to your specifications to a point, but you will be over budget:

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 780Ti "Own Design" 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £425.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK - Devil's Canyon Core i7 4790K CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£35 Saving** £348.97
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £109.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £99.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST3000DM001) HDD £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X) £59.99
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
Total : £1,423.80 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Cheaper option:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK - Devil's Canyon Core i7 4790K CPU & Motherboard Bundle **£35 Saving** £348.97
1 x XFX Radeon R9 290 DD Black Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (R9-290A-EDBD) with FREE Kingston 60GB SSD £289.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £99.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 750W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £89.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £88
1 x Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST3000DM001) HDD £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X) £59.99
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
Total : £1,267.80 (includes shipping : £12.50).




:)
 
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I will go through it properly now.. Just scanning over it amazed how the hell did you come up with that that quick? It took me ages to put all stuff together even then, post I spent about 45 mins getting it down :L

Thanks so much will surely have some questions for in you in 30 mins or so :P
 
That Mobo will that be future proof? I don't have a clue about them... thanks for giving me some options but I was hoping some one could explain some of the questions I have asked also...
 
I will go through it properly now.. Just scanning over it amazed how the hell did you come up with that that quick? It took me ages to put all stuff together even then, post I spent about 45 mins getting it down :L

Thanks so much will surely have some questions for in you in 30 mins or so :P

We do this every day so we know really what to spec, some users do there own tweaks here and there.

That Mobo will that be future proof? I don't have a clue about them... thanks for giving me some options but I was hoping some one could explain some of the questions I have asked also...

The Z97 should take the new Bradwell cpus, I think they are due next year, not really kept up to speed on these.

The board and PSU can take another GPU in both builds if needed in the future.

Memory is on special for today only and I use the same stuff in my system :)

Overclocking - have a read around the web, there is various tutorials around which go through how to setup, but basically increased the multiplier bit by bit, you will need to increase the Vcore on the cpu.

GPU wise, depends on how soon you want to build if you can hold on for few weeks and see how the new Nvidia range fair but I doubt the 780Ti will drop very much listening to Gibbo in the offers thread, he managed todo some deals on the standard 780.
 
Thanks :) I did notice that the ud3h only has one x16 pcie slot dose that mean when I come to sli I would have to use the 8 and be slower?

What will happen is the 2nd slot shares bandwidth with the top slot so this will be running at dual 8x, performance difference can be around 1-3% depending on games played.

:)
 
The only real way to save cash is not to go down the Nvidia route. I also wouldn't expect a huge drop in 780Ti pricing, £20 here or there.

Should be noted that the GTX780Ti price for the KFA2 has gone up again now also, but it is still the cheapest by a fair margin.
 
 
Though it's £200 over budget :P

Well yeah, not much you can do about that if you go down the GTX 780Ti/i7 route though.

If the OP is willing to compromise slightly then this would be my option to hit the £1200 mark.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Intel Core i5 DIY ATX Motherboard, CPU & RAM Bundle £328.98
1 x MSI Radeon R9 290 Gaming Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £295.99
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE500BW) £179.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H105 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060016-WW ) £89.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 750W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
Total : £1,195.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).

 
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It should be noted that on a single GPU at any resolution the CPU will not be a bottleneck if you went for an i5.

And if you are only maybe only editing in the future then the i5 will still be ample for your needs.
 
Okay, another go at sub £1200, how to squeeze in Crossfire !

YOUR BASKET
2 x XFX Radeon R9 290 DD Black Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (R9-290A-EDBD) with FREE Kingston 60GB SSD £289.99 (£579.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£14 Saving** £258.58
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £109.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit (TXD38G2666HC11CDC01) £65.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 1 Year Warranty £39.95
1 x LG GH24NSB0 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
Total : £1,183.93 (includes shipping : £13.75).



This already has Crossfire, dual 290's

Use the 60GB hard drives for now and download and try windows 7 and 8 for 3months trail for free, 100% legit. Then, when you decide on 7 or 8 buy an OS and a mechanical harddrive.


Or, if you want the crazy Crossfire option then...
YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290 PCS+ OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE 8GB 2400MHz Memory Kit £293.99
1 x XFX Radeon R9 290 DD Black Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (R9-290A-EDBD) with FREE Kingston 60GB SSD £289.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£14 Saving** £258.58
1 x SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 850W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £109.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £98.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 1 Year Warranty £39.95
1 x LG GH24NSB0 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
Total : £1,121.94 (includes shipping : £13.75).




The power colour would go in the bottom slot, and the free ram frees up cash for something else, hard drive, OS whatever.

:D
 
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These builds look awesome guy's... Thanks

Will be update what I purchase in the next month or so, because my family run a business I might be able to up the budget as I could claim tax back :D

Also @Quartz I will but buying a new tv for it don't worry I looked for a full day solid at tv's, hz, input lag, reviews of tv's the lot my brain was mush at the end :L

Result: http://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?p=2534225

I have notice £1200 dosen't go very far so I may up my budget to get what I want, then I can ask questions on, what aesthetics and toys I can have ;) subtle LED's etc...

Would I be able to have fan controlers or will this be done with software?

Also I noticed some one mention not to get the H100i but was the other version you quoted a higher spec? If so what is the difference?
 
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