The fact that it's still called FEMinism is part of the issue.
this really *YELLOW* es me off no end
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The fact that it's still called FEMinism is part of the issue.
It's hardly surprising given the number of people like the woman in the OP fighting under the banner of "feminism".
The fact that it has the prefix "FEM" in the name should give some clue that it's biased towards women. Or would you see a "masculist" movement as also being for equality?
See post 43 for an explanation of the confusion between the 2 definitions of feminism which are being argued interchangeably in this thread, and unsurprisingly causing misunderstandings
It's hardly surprising given the number of people like the woman in the OP fighting under the banner of "feminism".
The fact that it has the prefix "FEM" in the name should give some clue that it's biased towards women. Or would you see a "masculist" movement as also being for equality?
See post 43 for an explanation of the confusion between the 2 definitions of feminism which are being argued interchangeably in this thread, and unsurprisingly causing misunderstandings
It's a movement promoting equal rights for women. I don't understand the problem with the name?!
so having read the whole thread, i'm still not seeing what's important here? 
I obviously do not agree with the death threats.
games are fiction, they allow us to do things that we couldn't / shouldn't / don't want to do in the real world.
anyway if this is her only problem, she needs a wake up call. worse things are going on in this world that we should fix first.
#firstworldproblems
I obviously do not agree with the death threats.
games are fiction, they allow us to do things that we couldn't / shouldn't / don't want to do in the real world.
anyway if this is her only problem, she needs a wake up call. worse things are going on in this world that we should fix first.
#firstworldproblems
If they want equal rights for women, then they also by definition want equal rights for men, so why specify gender? Surely "humanism" would be more appropriate?
Why are they not fighting for men's rights as well?
Because their modus operandi is to remove inequalities suffered by women. There's nothing implicit or explicit in that which means a denial of others' rights, so why act like there is?
Why doesn't the RSPB campaign for all animals?
Why doesn't childline offer assistance for all ages?
Why doesn't British Heart Foundation raise funds for other illnesses?
It's hardly surprising given the number of people like the woman in the OP fighting under the banner of "feminism".
The fact that it has the prefix "FEM" in the name should give some clue that it's biased towards women. Or would you see a "masculist" movement as also being for equality?
See post 43 for an explanation of the confusion between the 2 definitions of feminism which are being argued interchangeably in this thread, and unsurprisingly causing misunderstandings
It's called feminism because it deals with the distinct problems faced by women in the fight for equality. It's a branch of egalitarianism, rather than being something that's mutually exclusive with egalitarianism, as many here seem to believe.
Just because someone fights for one cause doesn't mean that they think that other causes aren't important too. Everyone has to pick and choose their own battle.
Because inequalities can be both positive and negative.
Do you not think it's a bit strange that they only campaign to change the inequalities which impact negatively on women, and not the ones which have a positive effect?
If they wanted true equality then they would campaign for both.
Because inequalities can be both positive and negative.
Do you not think it's a bit strange that they only campaign to change the inequalities which impact negatively on women, and not the ones which have a positive effect?
If they wanted true equality then they would campaign for both.
What things don't they campaign against which has a positive effect?
I suggest you consider the wider cause when you compile your answers.
Do you not think it's a bit strange that they only campaign to change the inequalities which impact negatively on women, and not the ones which have a positive effect?
Where are you getting this idea from? Feminists do campaign for things like equal paternity leave.
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I don't know if anyone has taken you to task on this point, but Nathan Grayson who supposedly slept with the woman developer of 'Depression Quest' has not reviewed or promoted the game in question on Kotaku.
So that whole #Gamergate argument is moot.
Which would make the name of feminism redundant...
You don't see how maternity leave being non-transferable to men is bad for women's rights?
Well, as Tunney has posted below you, paternity leave and residency rights for separated dads is the obvious big one to start with.
Got any examples of that - genuinely interested, as I can't find any?
How about equal sentencing for crimes (particularly of a sexual nature, although I will concede this is improving).
How about some quotas for male employees in certain careers (or removal of those for women in others)?
What about the other people alleged to have. What about all the SJW threads on Rock, Paper Shotgun with Comments Disabled at the bottom. That doesn't promote discussion that breathes rhetoric. Both sides are being asshats here.
That's irrelevant, my point is that if someone is campaigning for the rights of both men and women, I don't see how their actions could be considered a part of a feminist movement. It's equal rights, not feminism.
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'alleged' is the key phrase, and who are these people exactly?
And why are you so bothered about what reviews a FREE game designed to help people realise what depression is like, get? Rockpapershotgun don't even give a score that can be added to metacritic.
And why are you so bothered about what reviews a FREE game designed to help people realise what depression is like, get? Rockpapershotgun don't even give a score that can be added to metacritic.
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Feminism IS about equal rights. But it's concentrated on equalising rights where they are unequal to the detriment of women.
Sometimes, people don't see how that benefits men too (as with paternity leave), but it really does.
We might even find, in due course, that the breakdown of the "traditional" society-forced role of men/women might benefit men in other ways - reduce male suicide rates ("man-up") and late treatment of serious illness due to not presenting at doctors, for example.
A quick Google of "paternity leave feminism" resulting in many, many links to feminists arguing for equal paternity leave.
You still seem to think that feminism and equal rights are mutually exclusive. Feminism is one part of the fight for equality.