• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

** AMD PRICE DROP: EARLY AT OcUK!! **

Bloodr0se said:
Yeah that seems to be recurring opinion, you're definitely not the first person to make that recommendation.

I'm kind of torn between the 8320 and the 8350 or waiting for the 8370 atm. I don't change my CPU very often so I'd ideally like to get the best one possible.
Click to expand...

They're all one of the same dude. Their specs are identical other than their clock speeds.

My 8320 does 4.9ghz all day long. It's very much temperature dependent though and it red lines at 73c. Once you go above that (so exactly 74c) the rig locks up. I'm absolutely certain that with my CPU under water I could easily surpass 5ghz.

I ended up settling for a heat wave clock of 4.7ghz.

I've had two btw. The other one was board limited (4+2) but it was so easy getting it to 4.4ghz that it wasn't even funny.

Just avoid the multi and hit the FSB.

Thing is? AMD are binning hard atm to make these centurions. That means there's an awful lot of very good chips floating around in 8320 packaging :)
 
ALXAndy said:
They're all one of the same dude. Their specs are identical other than their clock speeds.

My 8320 does 4.9ghz all day long. It's very much temperature dependent though and it red lines at 73c. Once you go above that (so exactly 74c) the rig locks up. I'm absolutely certain that with my CPU under water I could easily surpass 5ghz.

I ended up settling for a heat wave clock of 4.7ghz.

I've had two btw. The other one was board limited (4+2) but it was so easy getting it to 4.4ghz that it wasn't even funny.

Just avoid the multi and hit the FSB.

Thing is? AMD are binning hard atm to make these centurions. That means there's an awful lot of very good chips floating around in 8320 packaging :)
Click to expand...


I have to admit that, being a bit of a bargain hunter, the 8320 is appealing since it seems to be at least £20 cheaper than an 8350 around 40% cheaper than an 8370 but I'm just a bit cautious about buying a chip that has only just been replaced by AMD this week. I think I'm going to have to do a bit more searching on this. :)
 
Bloodr0se said:
I don't think I want that one since it is the underclocked eco model. I think I would probably prefer the 8320 over that or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Click to expand...

Yes.

It still has an unlocked multiplier like the 8320 but with refinements in the manufacturing process, is likely to be lower leakage so will clock higher and with less voltage, unless you're going for suicide runs at well over 5GHz.
 
JonSmith said:
Yes.

It still has an unlocked multiplier like the 8320 but with refinements in the manufacturing process, is likely to be lower leakage so will clock higher and with less voltage, unless you're going for suicide runs at well over 5GHz.
Click to expand...

So it's just lower clock/power on the stock clock then and as soon as you OC it, it becomes exactly the same? I usually tend to stay clear of 'Eco' versions of products because the Eco features usually come at the expense of reduced performance.

I would ideally be looking for an OC that was at least in the 4.5GHz range tbh.
 
Bloodr0se said:
So it's just lower clock/power on the stock clock then and as soon as you OC it, it becomes exactly the same? I usually tend to stay clear of 'Eco' versions of products because the Eco features usually come at the expense of reduced performance.

I would ideally be looking for an OC that was at least in the 4.5GHz range tbh.
Click to expand...

It won't be the same, it is likely to require less voltage to reach the same clocks as the none eco variants. Chips that are designed to be low power are almost always better clockers using ambient cooling due to being low leakage parts. As an example my dad has a mobile Athlon-M CPU (old socket A mobile Athlon) that he absolutely clocked the socks off.

Again refer to my signature for info about a 4.5GHz clocking 8320 system with a low voltage. This is from a 2014 batch chip so the 8320e is going to be at least the same, if not better.
 
TBH I have a feeling that the E range were going to be their Steamroller. IE - optimised controller, needs less voltage (so basically BD to PD).

I know AMD were working on this. All the same cores of course, but revised controller...
 
JonSmith said:
It won't be the same, it is likely to require less voltage to reach the same clocks as the none eco variants. Chips that are designed to be low power are almost always better clockers using ambient cooling due to being low leakage parts. As an example my dad has a mobile Athlon-M CPU (old socket A mobile Athlon) that he absolutely clocked the socks off.

Again refer to my signature for info about a 4.5GHz clocking 8320 system with a low voltage. This is from a 2014 batch chip so the 8320e is going to be at least the same, if not better.
Click to expand...

Thanks for this. Tbh, I think what I need to know is will that E impact upon my game performance in any way? Because that is what concerns me.

I'm also quite interested in the 8370 but so far I can't really find any clarification as to how it is different from the 8350, aside from it being 2 years newer.
 
Bloodr0se said:
Thanks for this. Tbh, I think what I need to know is will that E impact upon my game performance in any way? Because that is what concerns me.

I'm also quite interested in the 8370 but so far I can't really find any clarification as to how it is different from the 8350, aside from it being 2 years newer.
Click to expand...

It won't impact your game performance unless you leave it at stock frequency. If you overclock it should be better, as it will require less volts to hit your target clock. E.g:

8320e stock > 3.3GHz @ 1.2V
8320 stock > 3.5GHz @ 1.35V

8320e overclocked > 4.5GHz @ ~1.35V
8320 overclocked > 4.5GHz @ 1.365V+

Result, same performance but less power required and less heat.
 
JonSmith said:
It won't impact your game performance unless you leave it at stock frequency. If you overclock it should be better, as it will require less volts to hit your target clock. E.g:

8320e stock > 3.3GHz @ 1.2V
8320 stock > 3.5GHz @ 1.35V

8320e overclocked > 4.5GHz @ ~1.35V
8320 overclocked > 4.5GHz @ 1.365V+

Result, same performance but less power required and less heat.
Click to expand...

Sounds tempting when you put it like that, I have to admit. I'm still not sure when it will arrive though tbh. OCUK says tomorrow but it is the only UK site saying that as far as I can see.
 
Im quite tempted to see how it'll compare to my old 8350... Feel like i may be able to squeeze a few more Mhz out :D

Will probably wait a bit until its confirmed that they are binned chips though
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom