Gay Man Survives Hammer Attack

14 years seems pretty low... IMO we seem to have pretty low sentences here for a whole range of violent crimes, he's drastically changed someone's life and nearly took it from them... he should be sentenced to a longer term and actually serve 14 years or so... as it stands he'll be out before he's 30

He's going to a secure mental hospital prison. The likelihood of him being out in 30 years is slim to none.
 
14 years seems pretty low... IMO we seem to have pretty low sentences here for a whole range of violent crimes, he's drastically changed someone's life and nearly took it from them... he should be sentenced to a longer term and actually serve 14 years or so... as it stands he'll be out before he's 30




it was part of the motivation for the attack seemingly

14 years is a ridiculously short term for this I thought, it's not like he even tried to stop himself. He (in his mind) killed him, and then informed police. It shouldn't be treated too differently to a murder; the intent was absolutely there, he nearly did, and has not shown a shred of remorse.
 
14 years seems pretty low... IMO we seem to have pretty low sentences here for a whole range of violent crimes, he's drastically changed someone's life and nearly took it from them... he should be sentenced to a longer term and actually serve 14 years or so... as it stands he'll be out before he's 30




it was part of the motivation for the attack seemingly

The BBC isn't clear but you might find he's been ordered to serve a minimum of 14 years before he's considered for release. Particularly given that he's going to a secure mental hospital rather than prison. Those who are deemed to have mental health problems which contributed to their offending often find it much trickier to get released at the end of their sentence .

People ask me why I continue to provide mentoring and support to young LGBT people and attend pride events when we have equal marriage. This is why. Legislation itself doesn't mean people are treated equally on a day to day basis. Legislation is part of the battle but the harder, and more important part is achieving the shift in people's perception of us. It's a point that's hard for my liberal, egalitarian friends to grasp because they live in a world where (they believe) everyone to be treated equally because in their minds they are equal and they live in a bubble where people have similarly accepting views. Put simply they've never accidentally walked through the wrong part of town at night whilst 'looking gay'.
 
He's going to a secure mental hospital prison. The likelihood of him being out in 30 years is slim to none.

Will likely be like my friend from school (hopefully) and detained indefinitely, no way you can let people like that out again.

(And anyone who thinks they can/can be rehabilitated has no ******* clue).
 
Ah yes shared housing what a great idea. Hopefully the hammer freak is never let out if he is it will be a travesty.
 
I don't buy the hate crime story. He didn't do it because he was gay, he did it because he simply didn't like him.

Bloke was clearly unhinged. Calling the Police without trying to hide anything doesn't seem like a premeditated attack.

Guy is going to be in a place like Rampton until he is old, in which time he'd have been through so many drugs and reprogramming that at best he'll get to walk to the park and back with a care assistant.
 
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The BBC isn't clear but you might find he's been ordered to serve a minimum of 14 years before he's considered for release. Particularly given that he's going to a secure mental hospital rather than prison. Those who are deemed to have mental health problems which contributed to their offending often find it much trickier to get released at the end of their sentence .

People ask me why I continue to provide mentoring and support to young LGBT people and attend pride events when we have equal marriage. This is why. Legislation itself doesn't mean people are treated equally on a day to day basis. Legislation is part of the battle but the harder, and more important part is achieving the shift in people's perception of us. It's a point that's hard for my liberal, egalitarian friends to grasp because they live in a world where (they believe) everyone to be treated equally because in their minds they are equal and they live in a bubble where people have similarly accepting views. Put simply they've never accidentally walked through the wrong part of town at night whilst 'looking gay'.


I don't care about anyone's sexuality whatsoever, it isn't relevant. People trying to force their belief it is relevant on me, I just switch off. It's none of my business and don't want it to be my business.

You will do more to change perceptions by just trying to get by. This victim culture is pathetic. Everyone is a victim of some wrong doing at some point in life. Your fat, your tattoo'd, your black, your white etc always some stupid reason for bad things happening.

People who force themselves to be victims because of how they were born is not a way to live. Not everyone is out to get you.

I have a 3 year old son. If he turns out to be Gay? So what. I don't care. It's his life to live and I will support him. Not let him make himself be an automatic victim.

On a side note, most evil attacks are not motivated by sexuality. They are flash in the pan incidents with people not thinking clearly, already having some sense of detachment from reality.

The media don't help by adding the fact he was Gay when there was nothing specific to the crime report which mentions sexuality.

It's like saying "Man Who Prefers Brunettes Bottled in Bar Fight".

I'm an advocate of supporting victims from all walks of life, real victims of crime and hate.
 
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It's a testament to the skill of his doctors that he has survived, and I hope that he can live as full a life as possible given the injuries inflicted on him.
 
That aside, glad the lad has pulled through. Just can't account for this happening these days. Doesn't help that 28% of all illness treated by the NHS is mental health and only 13% of the budget. Some of the conditions are life long and the Tories don't seem to grasp the prevention concept.
 
Jesus...

It does worry me that you could be attacked or killed by anyone for practically any nonsense reason because they were having a bit of a "mental" day
 
Jesus...

It does worry me that you could be attacked or killed by anyone for practically any nonsense reason because they were having a bit of a "mental" day

On this note... good luck to all the students getting thrown into halls of residence with complete random strangers over the next few weeks.
 
It's not relevant to his survival, though, which is why the thread title is a little jarring.

"Man survives homophobic hammer attack" makes relevant use of the gay aspect.

Yes that would be more appropriate, sorry for any confusion.

I don't buy the hate crime story. He didn't do it because he was gay, he did it because he simply didn't like him.

Bloke was clearly unhinged. Calling the Police without trying to hide anything doesn't seem like a premeditated attack.

Guy is going to be in a place like Rampton until he is old, in which time he'd have been through so many drugs and reprogramming that at best he'll get to walk to the park and back with a care assistant.

While he was clearly unhinged as well, he spent the time leading up to the attack talking to people about how he hated gays and cross dressers, and how he would hurt his room-mate soon because of it.

Also, it's not like it was provoked in the heat of the moment; he lay asleep, and two calculated blows to the top of the skull screams premeditated to me...
 
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