Gay Man Survives Hammer Attack

I don't care about anyone's sexuality whatsoever, it isn't relevant. People trying to force their belief it is relevant on me, I just switch off. It's none of my business and don't want it to be my business.

You will do more to change perceptions by just trying to get by. This victim culture is pathetic. Everyone is a victim of some wrong doing at some point in life. Your fat, your tattoo'd, your black, your white etc always some stupid reason for bad things happening.

People who force themselves to be victims because of how they were born is not a way to live. Not everyone is out to get you.

I have a 3 year old son. If he turns out to be Gay? So what. I don't care. It's his life to live and I will support him. Not let him make himself be an automatic victim.

On a side note, most evil attacks are not motivated by sexuality. They are flash in the pan incidents with people not thinking clearly, already having some sense of detachment from reality.

The media don't help by adding the fact he was Gay when there was nothing specific to the crime report which mentions sexuality.

It's like saying "Man Who Prefers Brunettes Bottled in Bar Fight".

I'm an advocate of supporting victims from all walks of life, real victims of crime and hate.

Yeah those bloody gays going to bed and having hammers smashed through their heads and then making out they are the victim............ oh wait, he was.

An interesting rant but somewhat out of place given the threads subject.
 
I do wonder whether the motivation was simply because the man was gay or because he was a complete mincing flouncer. From an expanded version of the story I read elsewhere the guilty party said to friends sometime before the attack that he couldn't stand the guy and was going to end up hurting him. That to me says it's more than an inherent dislike of his sexuality but someone truly reaching the end of their tether with someone they cannot stand to be around but are forced to endure.
Doesn't justify beating his skull in with a hammer but I can understand why being forced to live with someone like that might drive you to violence.
 
I do wonder whether the motivation was simply because the man was gay or because he was a complete mincing flouncer. From an expanded version of the story I read elsewhere the guilty party said to friends sometime before the attack that he couldn't stand the guy and was going to end up hurting him. That to me says it's more than an inherent dislike of his sexuality but someone truly reaching the end of their tether with someone they cannot stand to be around but are forced to endure.
Doesn't justify beating his skull in with a hammer but I can understand why being forced to live with someone like that might drive you to violence.

So if he was 'a complete mincer' he deserves to be attacked and left with significant disabilities? He was in his own home, if you can't be yourself at home where can you be yourself?

I hate this kind of stupid victim blaming. It's the same as suggesting woman in short skirts deserve to be raped.
 
Yeah those bloody gays going to bed and having hammers smashed through their heads and then making out they are the victim............ oh wait, he was.

An interesting rant but somewhat out of place given the threads subject.

It wasn't aimed at the thread and topic, it was a reply to someone else's comments.

Of course he was a victim. A real one. Which ties into my point.
 
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So if he was 'a complete mincer' he deserves to be attacked and left with significant disabilities? He was in his own home, if you can't be yourself at home where can you be yourself?

I hate this kind of stupid victim blaming. It's the same as suggesting woman in short skirts deserve to be raped.

Be a lot easier to just move wouldn't it.

Like strangling the Mrs because she won't do the dishes. lol
 
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So if he was 'a complete mincer' he deserves to be attacked and left with significant disabilities? He was in his own home, if you can't be yourself at home where can you be yourself?

I hate this kind of stupid victim blaming. It's the same as suggesting woman in short skirts deserve to be raped.

Clearly you have some sort of reading retardation. Missing the bit where I state in particular he doesn't deserve to be hurt. I can just understand how it could be irritating.
 
I do wonder whether the motivation was simply because the man was gay or because he was a complete mincing flouncer. From an expanded version of the story I read elsewhere the guilty party said to friends sometime before the attack that he couldn't stand the guy and was going to end up hurting him. That to me says it's more than an inherent dislike of his sexuality but someone truly reaching the end of their tether with someone they cannot stand to be around but are forced to endure.
Doesn't justify beating his skull in with a hammer but I can understand why being forced to live with someone like that might drive you to violence.
If the person in the post wasn't gay I don't believe for a single moment you would hold this kind of view.

A story about a random guy having his head smashed in with a hammer wouldn't have undertones of blame & understanding as to why they may want to hurt them.

Your bias is showing.
 
If the person in the post wasn't gay I don't believe for a single moment you would hold this kind of view.

A story about a random guy having his head smashed in with a hammer wouldn't have undertones of blame & understanding as to why they may want to hurt them.

Your bias is showing.

You're completely incorrect. I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with excessive campness. As I said I wouldn't beat someone with a hammer but I can understand the irritation that could drive someone in that situation to violence. Understanding does not imply support.

You're smart enough to know that.
 
If the person in the post wasn't gay I don't believe for a single moment you would hold this kind of view.

A story about a random guy having his head smashed in with a hammer wouldn't have undertones of blame & understanding as to why they may want to hurt them.

Your bias is showing.

Would with me. I've lived in shared houses with some right muppets.

But I used pranks to work through my anger issues with them.
 
You're completely incorrect. I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with excessive campness. As I said I wouldn't beat someone with a hammer but I can understand the irritation that could drive someone in that situation to violence. Understanding does not imply support.

You're smart enough to know that.
You can understand why excessive campness may drive somebody to violence?.

I mean, I'm able to understand that some people are mentally unbalanced & can get angry about things which don't objectively matter - but that's not exactly the same thing.

(Taking into account the overall tone of your comment, coupled with your posting history).
 
You're completely incorrect. I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with excessive campness. As I said I wouldn't beat someone with a hammer but I can understand the irritation that could drive someone in that situation to violence. Understanding does not imply support.

You're smart enough to know that.

What's wrong with being very camp?
 
What's wrong with being very camp?

I think what he is referring to is probably the constant use of innuendo at inappropriate times. Also the pet hate of many homosexual folk. In fact, they probably get more angry about it.

Like if your out with your kids in a public place, you don't want a pair of mincers talking dirty around them but they feel they have license to do so.

With straight people you literally just tell them to STFU or go elsewhere. Innuendo driven overly camp gay individuals tend to take offence to a reasonable request and even walking away from them is offensive, apparently.

All of the gay people I know are equally angered by this because it helps shape a bad perception which is false and not a representation of the community. It's just these bad incidents tend to stick in minds.
 
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I think what he is referring to is probably the constant use of innuendo at inappropriate times. Also the pet hate of many homosexual folk. In fact, they probably get more angry about it.

Like if your out with your kids in a public place, you don't want a pair of mincers talking dirty around them but they feel they have license to do so.

With straight people you literally just tell them to STFU or go elsewhere. Innuendo driven overly camp gay individuals tend to take offence to a reasonable request and even walking away from them is offensive, apparently.

All of the gay people I know are equally angered by this because it helps shape a bad perception which is false and not a representation of the community. It's just these bad incidents tend to stick in minds.

I enjoyed this ^ post :D
 
What's wrong with being very camp?

What's right with it?!
I don't feel the need to have some strange accent that only overtly camp men possess no matter what their geographical origin. To walk in a very odd mincing manner. To refer to everyone as darling or babe. I don't feel the need to wear a onesie. To constantly make overt sexual references. To behave in a pathetic manner when confronted by a spider, insect, rodent, amphibian etc. To giggle incessantly.
To essentially advertise my sexuality.
 
What's right with it?!
I don't feel the need to have some strange accent that only overtly camp men possess no matter what their geographical origin. To walk in a very odd mincing manner. To refer to everyone as darling or babe. I don't feel the need to wear a onesie. To constantly make overt sexual references. To behave in a pathetic manner when confronted by a spider, insect, rodent, amphibian etc. To giggle incessantly.
To essentially advertise my sexuality.

This.

Why can't you just be gay and act normal.
 
Yes, the x-ray really is shocking. It's really in there, I would have thought that's a certain death...

And the reason is just all the worst; it's not as if it was even a crime of anger in the heat of the moment (which I obviously don't condone). This was a cold, premeditated attack with intent to murder.

:(

it probably depends on which part is damaged. He may lose the ability to speak or walk for example.

as for the incident itself O_O WTF!!!!! that guy should have gotten life!
 
I do wonder whether the motivation was simply because the man was gay or because he was a complete mincing flouncer. From an expanded version of the story I read elsewhere the guilty party said to friends sometime before the attack that he couldn't stand the guy and was going to end up hurting him. That to me says it's more than an inherent dislike of his sexuality but someone truly reaching the end of their tether with someone they cannot stand to be around but are forced to endure.
Doesn't justify beating his skull in with a hammer but I can understand why being forced to live with someone like that might drive you to violence.

It can be a complicated situation assuming he was finding it extremely difficult to live around the guy i.e. say he was over-bearing as well as pushing his lifestyle on the attacker who for some reason wasn't in a position to simply move out it could drive someone up the wall. Not that it justifies any of it but people in general need to learn to live and let live and have a tiny bit more consideration that everyone is living with their own issues, etc.

It sounds more like a premeditated attack rather than just lashing out in frustration though.
 
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