Manchester dogs home in arson attack. Dozens of dogs dead
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Wow thats making around £500 in the time it takes to refresh the page! Its good to see people giving like this after such a terrible event.
Doubt it.
If only these occasional heartfelt stands against suffering & injustice could be harnessed & applied more rationally or logically over a whole range of differ social issues. It's a little disheartening to think that a majority of those assisting under the guise of aiding animal welfare will be destroying with the left hand what they fix with the right.
What is often stated as "I support animal welfare" in reality is "I support the mistreatment of animals when it directly benefits me or my choices & condemn it when it's no personal loss to me".
The internet in essence has a collective emotional state almost, the problem is it's still in it's infancy & is entirely led by emotion (positive or negative). It's an interesting change over the last few years compared to when it first came into being, I'm hopeful this trend will continue & develop over time into something more consistent.
What is often stated as "I support animal welfare" in reality is "I support the mistreatment of animals when it directly benefits me or my choices & condemn it when it's no personal loss to me".
The internet in essence has a collective emotional state almost, the problem is it's still in it's infancy & is entirely led by emotion (positive or negative). It's an interesting change over the last few years compared to when it first came into being, I'm hopeful this trend will continue & develop over time into something more consistent.
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Terrible as this is, I can't help but wonder how many people would be rushing down with blankets & food and offering to take in strays if this was a shelter for the homeless and not animals.
I find it shameful that as a nation we donate twice as much to animal charities than we do those for the homeless.
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I find it shameful that as a nation we donate twice as much to animal charities than we do those for the homeless.
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I believe it boils down to, most people have had - or have a dog. Not that many personally know somebody who is homeless in the family (as most people end up that way due to not knowing anybody).
It's easier to empathise when you've experienced the same connection, we've also built up a culture of blame & rhetoric around choice which we only apply to humans - for (some) animals most people see them as innocent victims of circumstance.
It's easier to empathise when you've experienced the same connection, we've also built up a culture of blame & rhetoric around choice which we only apply to humans - for (some) animals most people see them as innocent victims of circumstance.
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Gift aid will more than offset that!, yes the charity could claim gift aid itself but i doubt it could do it as efficiently as Just Giving.
Also the ease in how it is to donate via JG will bring in far more donations that it would otherwise be possibleWhere are you getting that info? JustGiving fee is 5%, which they take from the GiftAid portion of the donation, for example a £10 donation with an additional GiftAid of £2.50 totaling £12.50 the charity will receive £11.74 after JG 5% and any credit/paypal fees.
Edit: Oops, misread your second figure. Thought it said £250k lol
To be fair, it's a necessary evil. Just Giving do have very high exposure and they don't hide their fees. There appears to be only one Charity fundraising website which doesn't take a fee or charge charities to register (www.givey.com) and they don't have Manchester Dogs Home registered. Just Giving pass the money onto the charity within 1 week of donation, compared for example to Givey which takes 1 month.
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Sacrifice a kid and kill a few dogs to raise money for dogs ?
Thinking more of the owners pocketing most of the donations but meh, I'm just a cynic.
If you think that's bad, look into the sort of figures charities get from donations. It makes the cut just giving takes look like nothing at all.
Outside of that, it's highly naive to think the people involved in the work Just Giving do shouldn't be paid for their time, especially since they're people doing it full time.
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Britian is a nation of dog lovers not homeless lovers. Also after a tragic event it's common for charities to jump on the bandwagon to pocket some of the cash. There is nothing that can be done about some of the greedy, scrupulous organizations out there. As long as the public's heart and intentions are in the right place we should be proud that we're pulling together to help out.
Homelessness is a big problem but that's the government's fault for letting in an influx of immigrants and not having tight border controls. If they can give houses, benefits and welfare support to "asylum seekers" then they can bloody help out UK citizens living rough.
Most homelessness stems from addiction and mental illness. But good job on turning this, of all threads, into a "DEY TUK R JERRRBS" thread.
a large part of the homeless population being violent addicts and there of their own choice kinda limits the scope of sympathy for them.
Do you have any figures on this or is it just a massive generalisation?.