Nation of meat eating animal lovers?

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Cosimo said:
Horse is tasty.
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I've eaten horse. And cow. And chicken. And pig. And buffalo. I'd give most ruminants a go. Eaten croc. Lizards. Snake. Octopus. All types of fish. All types of shell fish (Guinness and Oyster festival every year in Northern Ireland... absolute carnage). And to be honest, if it was a matter of life and death, I probably wouldn't hesitate to eat a person too.
 
SkodaMart said:
No I'm not.

I'm vegetarian.

I try to eat locally produced organic dairy products - dairy farming is actually worse that meat farming in many instances, and I must admit, I don't feel great about it.

My children eat meat, the choice is their own.
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So what about all the products you use and buy that are derived from animals, and are a by product of the meat industry?

I suspect you've not put that much thought into it.

It's not really any different to consuming meat.
 
Janesy B said:
I think you are quite dense, in regards to some of the comments in that Arson thread - how do you know their views on the badger cull or farming? You don't and you're just being a tool.

I don't like Dogs being burnt by arsonists, I don't agree with the badger cull and I don't really like modern farming but whatever, I like eating meat so I'll just have to cry myself to sleep every night.
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It was more the 'it's the worst thing I've heard' style comments.

43 dogs killed in an arson attack is a trivial compared to what goes on in Dixons slaughter house down the road everyday.

I can live without my bacon buttie, it actually makes you feel good not taking the flesh of another animal.
 
SkodaMart said:
I am a vegetarian.
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Good for you. Now keep it to yourself. You're as bad as all the other religious idiots who feel the need to push their way of life onto others.

I like animals and don't agree with unnecessary/pointless cruelty to them (the same as the majority of normal people), however I don't believe that killing animals for food/other uses (e.g. pigs are used in thousands of items - I bet you use some of them ;)) is not unnecessary/pointless.

To be honest, it's slightly concerning that you somehow make the link between humanely slaughtering animals bred purely for food and animals burned alive purely for the entertainment of a child; it says far more about you than people who are able to see the difference.

Now stop being so cruel to that high horse and get down off it's back ;)
 
SkodaMart said:
It was more the 'it's the worst thing I've heard' style comments.

43 dogs killed in an arson attack is a trivial compared to what goes on in Dixons slaughter house down the road everyday.

I can live without my bacon buttie, it actually makes you feel good not taking the flesh of another animal.
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How active is your imagination to even think of that image? Anyway, delicious bacon makes you feel better. :D
 
SkodaMart said:
It was more the 'it's the worst thing I've heard' style comments.

43 dogs killed in an arson attack is a trivial compared to what goes on in Dixons slaughter house down the road everyday.

I can live without my bacon buttie, it actually makes you feel good not taking the flesh of another animal.
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Hope you don't wear leather. Or drive a car with leather in it. Or use anything tested on animals. Like the majority of household drugs. I mean, if something's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
 
Darg said:
For the record I would empathise with a herd of cows that were burnt alive in a barn fire as well so your comparison is a little invalid. Just because we eat meat doesn't mean we don't care for animals in these situations.
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This sums it up really.

We don't order our steak 'well done' and expect the Chef to go out back, tip some petrol over a cow and cook it through.
 
Dogs are cute and cuddly plus they were killed for no reason.

Livestock is only bred for a purpose, either to be eaten or to produce a resource so there is no emotional attachment. If we didn't need them then they wouldn't be here (anything wild has been bred out of them). Plus the western diet of meat / dairy has benefits, look at how quickly the Japanese have grown (height has gone up with increase of animal protein intake) since taking on our diet.

The badger cull is necessary to protect farmers, if TB is allowed to spread it could put farms out of business. The badgers aren't going to go extinct we are just managing the population (disease spread) as we have for all British wild life for 100's of years.

Double standards? Yep but when has that stopped us.

Give it 50 odd years and the population increase will probably have made a meat diet too expensive for most of us to eat anyway.
 
cheesyboy said:
Feeling pretty neutral about dogs, and pets in general, I always find myself bemused by the reactions cute animals raise in people. Not that dogs are especially cute, mind.

The hypocracy of the "animal lovers" in the dog thread, in response to your posts is difficult to stomach, especially once you have educated yourself on the journey your chicken nuggets went on to arrive on your plate.

You also see such hypocracy with regards game hunting. Killing for the fun of sport is apparently much less noble than killing for the fun of taste (in the form of eating). As you correctly point out, OP, eating meat is not necessary for good health, so the only reason to do so is for enjoyment.
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What is this hypocracy you speak of?
 
spoffle said:
So what about all the products you use and buy that are derived from animals, and are a by product of the meat industry?

I suspect you've not put that much thought into it.

It's not really any different to consuming meat.
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Oh, I've put plenty of thought into it.

Dairy farming in many respects is worse than meat farming.
Cows being forced to reproduce every year, having calves removed from them as soon as they are born.
Mistreatment by workers, punching udders for a laugh - I've watched all the videos and many are sickening.
Dairy cattle also have huge amounts of antibiotics to prevent puss and boils on their udders, from constant over milking.

I know the score, I don't pretend to be perfect.
 
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Darg said:
Well you have researched cruelty in modern farming, why not save us the time and give us some examples?

I'm curious as my gfs father is a dairy farmer back in Ireland and takes good care of his stock. They live as good a life as could be expected and are humanely slaughtered at the end.
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I try to buy all my dairy from organic suppliers in the vain hope, the farming methods are like those you describe.
 
Evilsod said:
This sums it up really.

We don't order our steak 'well done' and expect the Chef to go out back, tip some petrol over a cow and cook it through.
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They may as well, a well done steak is tantamount to murder anyway, what kind of monster orders their steak well done?
 
gjrc said:
i am giving up everything in favour of a bowl of high horse every day.
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Lol, indeed.

If you are worried about welfare of the animals, then you can always buy a better product, where more care has been taken.

Farmed fish and free range chicken would be the way to go if you are worried about the environmental issues surrounding farmed beef. Or you could always source your protein from bugs..

No need to drop meat altogether, we are not designed to eat only veg after all.

If anyone is veggie for taste reasons, then I really feel for you. Nothing finer than a flame-grilled slice of steak :)
 
SkodaMart said:
Oh, I've put plenty of thought into it.

Dairy farming in many respects is worse than meat farming.
Cows being forced to reproduce every year, having calves removed from them as soon as they are born.
Mistreatment by workers, punching udders for a laugh - I've watched all the videos and many are sickening.
Dairy cattle also have huge amounts of antibiotics to prevent puss and boils on their udders.

I know the score, I don't pretend to be perfect.
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I wasn't talking about dairy, so I don't think you do know the score.

However, stating that you think the dairy industry is worse is just undermining the whole premise of this thread in the first place.
 
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